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RM | January 26, 2007 | Religion Moderator

Posted on 01/26/2007 9:05:39 AM PST by Religion Moderator

I am the current Religion Moderator and have general responsibility for this Religion Forum on Free Republic. However, all moderators have authority on the RF as well – and prior RMs may log in with my handle. So the person handling your abuse reports may or may not be me, but usually it will be.

I diligently try to read all of your posts, but am not here 24/7 and cannot remember all of the slights and parties involved on every single sidebar much less when posters carry grudges between threads. So if you are wondering why I singled one guy out and not the other involved in a dispute, often it is because I either did not see a previous post or did not remember it as part of the sidebar.

If the other guy in the dispute was given a warning, consider yourself warned as well.

I make every effort to treat all confessions with an even hand. Some here say that is not so evidently because their own confession is the target of what they consider to be more challenges and ridicule than the other guy’s confession. First, there is no confession on the Religion Forum with “clean hands” – if you doubt that, check out the threads where the article is “for” the other guy’s confession. Secondly, some confessions are far more contentious than others evidently as part of the doctrine.

Remember this: the demeanor of the poster says more about his own confession than the post says about yours. When he is being rude or mean it drives people away from his confession and towards yours. That is of course if you can resist the urge to meet fire with fire, in which case neither confession is appealing to the lurkers. The poster who “turns the other cheek” wins – every – single – time.

Some posters argue for their confessions as if their lives depended on it because, frankly, to many of them it does. Flame wars ignite over petty, miserably petty, minutia. Therefore, I hold all the Religion Forum posters to a tough standard:

1. Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal. You’ll see this warning frequently on threads because the first offense in a flame war is often when one of the participants makes a personal remark about another Freeper, e.g. you’re an idiot, liar, heretic and so on. Attributing motives to another poster or otherwise reading his mind is “making it personal.” Stick with the issues and you’ll be fine. When in doubt, double check your use of pronouns before hitting “post.”

2. Thin skinned RF posters should stick with the “closed” threads. I can and do intercede to keep posters from “making it personal.” There is nothing I can do to prevent a poster from “taking it personal.” And, frankly, many posters come to the RF with huge chips on their shoulders. Such posters are as guilty of causing flame wars as the ones who actually do “make it personal.”

3. “Closed” threads on the Religion Forum include devotionals, prayer threads and caucuses. The header of the thread should make it obvious that the thread is closed, i.e. like a church meeting behind closed doors. Such assemblies will not be disturbed. Any challenges or ridicule will be removed. Any thread can be designated a caucus - e.g. labeled as a “[Catholic Caucus]” or “[LDS Caucus]” - provided that neither the article nor any of the posts challenge or ridicule any other confession. These are “safe harbors” for those who are easily offended or are ill equipped to defend their own confession.

It is disingenuous to complain that your confession is being maligned when you are NOT using the caucus designation to protect the thread from challenges!

4. All other threads on the Religion Forum are “Open” which means they are like a town square. Challenges and ridicule will occur. Expect them to be contentious, rough or even insulting. Your confession will be maligned on open threads. Your beloved religious figures will be ridiculed. Don’t complain because the author or a religious figure is called a liar, demon, heretic or whatever on an open thread. It is to be expected in the town square. Remember too that the Religion Forum is densely populated with highly educated theologians. If you are ill-equipped to defend your confession, you’ll get beat up on “Open” thread. When in doubt, ping one of your best defenders and withdraw to a “Closed” thread.

As much as is possible I try to use a progressive method with uncooperative Religion Forum posters – a warning, and if that warning is ignored, a cookie (making him log in again), and if that is ignored, an hour suspension … and so on up to a banishment. I do this because an occasional misstep on such sensitive matters as one’s confession should be tolerable. But I will not be ignored.

Posters who have been previously banned and try to come back with a different handle will be banished as soon as they are “found out.” Some retreads stay off the “radar” by behaving themselves, but once they start picking fights – they cause the moderators – any of us – to investigate. If you have been previously banned and want to come back on the forum, make a request, promise not to do whatever caused the first banning.

A poster may also be banned in an instant if he is discovered to be a racist, a hate monger including an anti-Semitist, troll, anti-Freeper, etc.

There will be people on the forum who are anti- your confession whether anti-Christian, anti-Calvinist, anti-Catholic, anti-Protestant, anti-Mormon, anti-Atheist, anti-Scientologist and so on. As long as they are arguing for their position on an “Open” thread – and are not using hate mongering material such as the false “oath for Knights of Columbus” or Jack Chick cartoons – and are otherwise abiding by the guidelines, their challenges will be tolerated.

Threads that become “toxic” – which is to say have devolved into an unredeemable mess of hurt feelings will be locked or pulled. I prefer to lock the threads because many posters put a great deal of effort in their replies and would like to keep them bookmarked.


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To: trisham
All confessions are subject to challenge and ridicule on "Open" threads. If you want the thread to be "Closed" use the term "[Catholic Caucus]" in the title.

Frankly the Mormons and Scientologists on the RF have received the most disproportionate challenges and ridicule - even more than the Atheists (which I find odd for a Religion Forum.)

121 posted on 01/26/2007 8:27:04 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

If you're open to changing your restrictions, I vote you allow the RCCers to call the rest of us heretics. Even if they use the term in a "nontechnical" manner, it gives them a good-ole-fashion way to vent some steam.


122 posted on 01/26/2007 8:28:12 PM PST by pjr12345
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To: Salvation

If that happens, I will open the thread so the other confession can mount a defense or rebuttal. Usually I will do this by removing the caucus designation from the title.


123 posted on 01/26/2007 8:29:57 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Salvation
Indeed, if you create an "Open" thread on a subject like "Blessed Virgin Mary" you should expect challenges and ridicule.

If you want the thread closed to those challenges, put the term "[Catholic Caucus]" in the title.

Is it fair to say that I will pray for their mind to be opened to other viewpoints........and then leave the thread?

Yes, that is fair.
124 posted on 01/26/2007 8:32:57 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Ciexyz
Why do posters enter into a thread titled, for instance, "The Virgin of Guadalupe" and start attacking the core beliefs of the Mexican people as heresy? Would they not have a more congenial discussion among themselves if they start their own thread, for instance, "Protestant Positions on the Virgin Mary". Just a thought.

People are drawn to debate - both to participate and to watch. If every thread were "Closed" it would be rather dull.
125 posted on 01/26/2007 8:36:22 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Vicomte13

Sorry, Jack Chick is just too toxic. But feel free to post some other piñata for fun and games.


126 posted on 01/26/2007 8:39:53 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Vicomte13

LOL!


127 posted on 01/26/2007 8:40:18 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: pjr12345

I'll cut some slack on the "heretic" label. The bottom line is keeping the discussion on the issues, not "making it personal."


128 posted on 01/26/2007 8:43:32 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: magisterium
nearly impossible to wade through all the dreck to get to the good posts

For that, designate a caucus thread and ping the participants. If you want a thread that exposes our views to the large audience, you WANT troll posts. They bump the thread. I think we have all tools we need.

129 posted on 01/26/2007 8:44:02 PM PST by annalex
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To: Religion Moderator

Are you Catholic?
Yes or no?


130 posted on 01/26/2007 8:45:07 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: Religion Moderator; Vicomte13
Jack Chick

As a personal opinion, Jack's fine. It might even be in the medieval tradition of mocking the devil. I'd draw a line at inarticulate blasphemy.

131 posted on 01/26/2007 8:47:53 PM PST by annalex
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To: stfassisi

Sorry, I can't reveal my confession under this handle.


132 posted on 01/26/2007 8:50:11 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Why?


133 posted on 01/26/2007 8:51:46 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: annalex

Sorry, Jack Chick causes a tsunami of abuse reports. But I'm sure you'll find a suitable alternative.


134 posted on 01/26/2007 8:51:58 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: stfassisi
I make every effort to treat all confessions with an even hand. If I were to reveal my confession, every side would question my decisions.
135 posted on 01/26/2007 8:54:18 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

God is TRUTH ,how can you avoid truth in disguise?


136 posted on 01/26/2007 8:55:49 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: Religion Moderator
I'm the same one.

You've done a good job. The religion forum is a much more pleasant place than it used to be.

137 posted on 01/26/2007 9:29:21 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Religion Moderator
I've been a frequent poster all over the forum, including the RF.

Would I be out of line to ask under what handle?

138 posted on 01/26/2007 9:32:17 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

By mutual agreement, the moderators no longer reveal their street handles. Sorry about that.


139 posted on 01/26/2007 9:37:21 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: pjr12345

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

I wouldn't go on the subject you mentioned at all.

When you die and face the Lord, Jesus, He will be the judge, not me. I will gladly state my views with you and ask you to reconsider your viewpoint, but I can't be the judge and jury.


140 posted on 01/26/2007 9:39:47 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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