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To: vladimir998; Gamecock; Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; xzins; Blogger
When you attack the Church, you attack Christ.

The Roman Catholic Church is not "The Church". When Paul was persecuting Jesus he was engaged in killing Christians. We are not killing anyone, we are simply pointing out that the Roman Catholic Church's teachings are false and they are not scriptural and that the practices of the Roman Cathoic Church have become fully engulfed with pagan rituals clearly prohibited by scripture in the strongest sense.

There are members of the true Church of Christ in the Catholic fold. Just as there were members of the true Church of Christ in the Church at Laodicea. At best the Roman Catholic church is in the same shoes as the Church at Laodicea. At worst it is an apostate Church.

We do not persecute Jesus by pointing out the errors of the Roman Catholic Church. We proclaim the truth of scripture. Since scripture is the Word of God we are proclaiming Christ, not persecuting him.

Those who would relegate the Word of God to secondary status beneath the traditions of men are those who would persecute Christ.

56 posted on 01/26/2007 8:12:14 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

You wrote:

"The Roman Catholic Church is not "The Church"."

I am not "Roman Catholic". I am Catholic. The Church is the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is the Church.

"When Paul was persecuting Jesus he was engaged in killing Christians. We are not killing anyone,..."

Irrelevant. Attack the Church and you attack Christ. Persecution does not necessarily mean murder.

"...we are simply pointing out that the Roman Catholic Church's teachings are false and they are not scriptural and that the practices of the Roman Cathoic Church have become fully engulfed with pagan rituals clearly prohibited by scripture in the strongest sense."

All you are pointing out is that you know don't know what you attack. To attack papal infallibility without even knowing what it is and what it isn't does not lend credibility to your cause nor ascribe credit to your knowledge.

"At best the Roman Catholic church is in the same shoes as the Church at Laodicea. At worst it is an apostate Church."

Coming from someone who can't even express what those supposedly apostate beliefs are that comment doesn't even give me reason to consider it.

"We do not persecute Jesus by pointing out the errors of the Roman Catholic Church. We proclaim the truth of scripture. Since scripture is the Word of God we are proclaiming Christ, not persecuting him."

Impossible. No one can proclaim Christ against His body - the Church.

"Those who would relegate the Word of God to secondary status beneath the traditions of men are those who would persecute Christ."

And, surprise, that isn't what we do. Again you attack what you don't know.


57 posted on 01/26/2007 9:01:36 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: P-Marlowe
We proclaim the truth of scripture.

Who's "we"?

Not a facetious question.

The reason I ask, is because whenever I discuss this issue with non-Catholics, the "truth" is often different. God is one. Truth is one. There are not many truths. Only one.

Proclaiming the truth, therefore, implies a unified message. I don't see that unity, despite the claims to the contrary. There is a certain form of unity, I suppose one could say, in the opposition to Catholicism, but amongst those who claim the "truth" of Scripture for themselves, there appears widespread disunity and disagreement on what "truth" actually is.

If the Catholic Church doesn't have, then who does? Is it the man on Channel 96 who's waiting for the Rapture, or the holy roller on Channel 125 who's preaching the gospel of prosperity in the here and now?

59 posted on 01/26/2007 9:04:40 AM PST by marshmallow
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