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To: vladimir998
There was no papal condemnation of Galileo. These are the men who wrote the inquisitional condemnation of Galileo:

So the document titled "Papal Condemnation of Galileo" wasn't in fact an official Church documentnor was the prosecution of Galileo an official act of the Church. Is that your position?

These are the men who wrote the inquisitional condemnation of Galileo: F. Cardinal of Ascoli, B. Cardinal Gessi, G. Cardinal Bentivoglio, F. Cardinal Verospi, Fr. D. Cardinal of Cremona, M. Cardinal Ginetti, Fr. Ant. s Cardinal of. S. Onofrio

So your position is that these men were not acting under the authority of the Pope when they did this?

and never issued as a doctrine by the Church.

So your position is that the Pope allowed some renegade Bishops to prosecute a man in his name over a doctrinal issue that the Church actually agreed with?

Riiiigggghhht.

L

49 posted on 01/26/2007 6:51:21 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: Lurker

You wrote:

“So the document titled "Papal Condemnation of Galileo" wasn't in fact an official Church document nor was the prosecution of Galileo an official act of the Church. Is that your position?”

No, that is not my position. My position is the obviously correct one: an official document of the inquisition is not to be mistaken for a papal document. The pope is the pope. The inquisition is the inquisition. I do not confuse the one with the other because the two were never the same person or entity. You confuse them, and in fact, conflate them.

“So your position is that these men were not acting under the authority of the Pope when they did this?”

No, that is not my position at all. Again, you ask the wrong question. Is any action performed by inquisitors even when agreed to by popes a matter of papal infallibility? No. That is the question and that is the answer.

“So your position is that the Pope allowed some renegade Bishops to prosecute a man in his name over a doctrinal issue that the Church actually agreed with? Riiiigggghhht.”

No, again you ask the wrong question. First of all, were any of the men bishops? I saw they were cardinals. I have no idea if they were bishops. You make an assumption. I do not. Also, you make other mistakes:

1) The pope is not the inquisition, and the inquisition is not the pope.
2) Even of both pope and inquisition agreed on Galileo it is immaterial since it (meaning the canonical condemnation) was a canonical/juridical matter and not a definition of a doctrine for the faithful.
3) Like all inquisition trials, it was not private – therefore it could not impinge upon papal infallibility because that is ALWAYS public.
4) No doctrine was defined by the pope.
5) No teaching was issued by the pope.
6) No issue of science can fall under papal infallibility. EVER.

Until you learn the basics of what papal infallibility is and isn’t you will continue to make the errors you have made. Have you ever even read the decree on papal infallibility? You don’t seem to have read it. If you haven’t read it then you don’t know what you’re talking about OBVIOUSLY.


52 posted on 01/26/2007 7:55:52 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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