FAITH COMES BY HEARING--NT ON MP3 [SOLA SCRIPTURA PROVEN]

Quix; Pastor Brent Hedden and FAITH COMES BY HEARING website ^ | 24 JAN 2007 | Quix

[Gamecock]

But if the offering is the true Gospel, where's the downside?

Hmmmm. The idea certainly seems worthy of forming a committee and exploring it further.

[Claud]

Indeed, all things in God's own timing.

Worth discussing though, how personal literacy (which is absolutely indispensable to some modern forms of Christianity) would be so completely and thorougly unworkable from the Apostolic Age all the way up through Gutenberg and modern schooling.

We make too many assumptions in our modern era..."chronological snobbery" C. S. Lewis called it.

[Gamecock]

Of course the verbal transmission of the Word was unworkable through the middle ages.

[GCC Catholic]

CLEARLY HOLY SPIRIT IS WELL ABLE TO INSURE THAT GOD’S WORD DOES NOT RETURN VOID. MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOLY SPIRIT HAS REPEATEDLY MADE CLEAR OVER 30 YEARS THAT HE IS WELL ABLE TO ESTABLISH HIS CHURCH AND MAINTAIN IT’S HEALTHY FUNCTIONING

WITHOUT

ANY BUREAUCRACY FROM THE WEST OR ANYWHERE ELSE. . . .

without any tradition bound, traditions of men infected magesterium;

without any pontifical seminaries;

without any arguments about the original artifacts;

without any trumped up line of political succession;

without any denominational pride, parochialness and haughtily held distinctives;

without any formal or informal inquisitions;

without any arrogant authoritarian doctrinal police;

WITHOUT any elaborate explanations and straight jackets about how GOD CAN’T/WOULDN’T DO IT THAT WAY; GOD WOULDN’T DO !THAT!

WITHOUT anything but GOD’S WORD. TRULY LITERAL SOLA SCRIPTURA.

These people have done well with the measure of Grace and knowledge of God given them. That said, I challenge how that "proves" Sola Scriptura; given only Scripture and the Natural Law that already existed in the hearts of these people, neither I nor anyone else could expect they would come up with something other than a system based only on Scripture. Had they been given the Faith in its fullest as it came down from the Holy Apostles, they would have had a church that resembled the Catholic or the Orthodox Church (if not a part of one of those two Churches).

That said, I'd rather they have the Scriptures alone than to remain pagans with no knowledge of Christ.

[Claud]

And who was it that was *verbally* transmitting the word, Gamecock? Refresh my memory! ;)

[Gamecock]

I don't know, considering many priests at the time hadn't even seen a Bible.

[GCC Catholic]

I don't know, considering many priests at the time hadn't even seen a Bible.

That's a newsflash to me... It was my understanding that there was one in every parish, chained to the pulpit (not to prevent the laity from reading it, as if often claimed, but rather to prevent theft, as a hand-copied Bible would cost about a year's worth of the average working man's wages)

[Quix]

I agree.

[Quix]

You are right.

I agree.

Thanks for your support of the idea.

[Quix]

Thanks.

A very apt and welcome post. Appreciate your bother.

[Quix]

Straight Scripture is all the proclaimer is programmed with.

[Quix]

It has really enlivened our little congregation toward missions in a very productive way.

We are amazed at how rapidly folks have come forward in support of it.

[Quix]

Indeed.

[Salvation]

by hearing????

That verifies Holy Tradition!

Thank you for proving that Tradition from onr speaker to one hearer is a truth!

Blessings!

[Quix]

These people have done well with the measure of Grace and knowledge of God given them. That said, I challenge how that "proves" Sola Scriptura; given only Scripture and the Natural Law that already existed in the hearts of these people, neither I nor anyone else could expect they would come up with something other than a system based only on Scripture. Had they been given the Faith in its fullest as it came down from the Holy Apostles, they would have had a church that resembled the Catholic or the Orthodox Church (if not a part of one of those two Churches).
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Seems like quite a LOT of rather brazen

ASSUMPTIONS,
INFERENCES,
EXTRAPOLATIONS
AND
BIASES . . .

to me.

[Petronski]

In the name of God, please TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK. It makes you look like a nutter.

[Quix]

Thank you for proving that Tradition from onr speaker to one hearer is a truth!
= = =

WRONG.

I didn't prove that, at all.

God's Word is God's Word.

UnBiblical, extraBiblical tradition

is still

MAN'S TRADITION.

Different species entirely.

[Quix]

Is that supposed to be new information?

Thanks for your exhortation. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a change.

[Petronski]

Is that supposed to be new information?

No.

"Please turn off the caps" is a suggestion. "You look like a nutter" is not new information.

[Gamecock]

Yes, by hearing.....

The word of God.

It's in the Bible.


Every once in a rare while tradition and Scripture do match up.