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Alex Colliers alleged contact with ETs suggest that fundamentalist messages in from Christianity to Judaism to Islam, and other institutionalized religions, as well as outright apparent ‘cult’ groups, have been specifically placed by “hostile elements” to manipulate and control humankind.

Jesus, who many groups allege was a “Human ET” sought to inspire the social consciousness of humankind toward unity, and not to create a “Christian religion”, with its sexually repressive as well as homophobic undertones, which also have been used for the execution of racism, and to legitimate atrocities like the ‘slave trade‘.

ETs who allegedly contacted Alex Collier, also further allegedly stipulate that Jesus did in fact live; and lived out the rest of his life in Massada; and that Jesus was only crucified through the religious doctrine, and myth-making associated with ‘the palms‘.

As far as the “saviour scenario” is concerned, for example, Alex Collier was allegedly told by ETs that it has been put into our belief systems to “disempower us.” The saviour scenario within the dogma of institutionalized religions legitimate the creation of an elite-driven oppressive power structure who appoint themselves as “judgers of morality“. These religious elites have historically used their self-appointed roles to execute a comprehensive system of social controls that complement their joint pursuit of greed-oriented self-aggrandizement with other elites from government to business enterprises.

1 posted on 01/15/2007 8:38:25 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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Opiate of the (ignorant) masses


2 posted on 01/15/2007 8:44:17 AM PST by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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Nonsense. Where's the evidence?


3 posted on 01/15/2007 8:44:30 AM PST by onedoug
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Panspermia!

Humans didn't "evolve"- but aliens did, somewhere in a galaxy far far away!

And this is a pretty oppressive list of social controls saddled on us by greedy, self-aggrandizing elites!

1. You shall not worship any other god but YHWH.

2. You shall not make a graven image.

3. You shall not take the name of YHWH in vain.

4. You shall not break the Sabbath.

5. You shall not dishonor your parents.

6. You shall not murder.

7. You shall not commit adultery

8. You shall not steal.

9. You shall not commit perjury.

10. You shall not covet.


4 posted on 01/15/2007 8:48:50 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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ETs must not have a very firm grasp on human history or else those who are identified as ETs might be deceiving.

FWIW, this was the first ET related article I've read which metions 'global warming'. This brings us to the conclusion that had they been so well intentioned and intelligent, they would have warned about global warming far long ago in the 50s than now in the next millenium.

IMHO, Adamski's encounters may have been real, but were likely examples of demonic influence from the perspective of an unbeliever.


5 posted on 01/15/2007 9:09:28 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: Alex Murphy
Calling Zacharia Sitchen, to the front desk please.
6 posted on 01/15/2007 9:15:09 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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>> The non-coding sequences are common to all living organisms on Earth, from moulds to fish to humans. <<

Not possible. Human DNA, which goes 97% unread by mDNA, is hundreds of times more complex than some bacterial DNA. I think what the author means to say is the much less fantastic statement, "all organisms have some non-coding sequences in their DNA."


7 posted on 01/15/2007 9:49:41 AM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: Alex Murphy

ID INTREP


8 posted on 01/15/2007 9:51:40 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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Too much to read for now. Bump for later reading.


9 posted on 01/15/2007 9:55:03 AM PST by Kevmo (Darn, if only I had signed up 4 days earlier, I'd have a 3-digit Freeper #)
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Non-coding sequences, originally known as "junk DNA", were discovered years ago, and their function remained a mystery.

They are known as the 'slacker genes'
and are more prominant in some individuals than others.

10 posted on 01/15/2007 10:03:45 AM PST by uglybiker (A bunch of radical Unitarians left a flaming question mark on my lawn!)
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where are the scientologists?
11 posted on 01/15/2007 10:08:12 AM PST by commonguymd
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LIAR ALERT! LIAR ALERT!

This article, to establish authority, cites Sam Chang, whom it says is the head of the Human Genome Project. The head of the Human Genome Project is Francis Collins. The name "Sam Chang" returns 0 hits from a Google search of the Human Genome Project (now called the National Human Gene Research Institute).

13 posted on 01/15/2007 10:30:49 AM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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Gee, Mulder and Scully could have had a nice little argument about that last paragraph you quoted. I think I'll go with Scully on this: it sounds like a paranoid delusion, Mulder.

Unless, of course, Mulder finds the hidden laboratory where the 'junk' DNA has been extracted and the extraterresial entities are being grown in test tubes and growth tanks.


14 posted on 01/15/2007 11:43:44 AM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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Hey, I read all of this and was pretty much fully convinced and could see the reasoning and logic behind all of it. It brought years of questioning, wondering and searching together in one coherent, cogent article and pretty much explained all the up 'til now unexplainable questions of science- biology, cosmology, anthropology, genetics, nuclear physics- with one swell foop. Really amazing stuff!

[A new field that encompasses all this should be started - buffoonology.]

That's until I came to this part:
the saving of Humanity from its current apparent course of self-destruction, including on-going catastrophic Global Warming
and all of a sudden I realized that this whole very well thought out and put together scenario, with its detailed documentation and authenticated quotes, was just another piece of AlBore's "Incontinent Truths" stuff. Wow! What a let down.

Do I really need the /sarc tag??

15 posted on 01/15/2007 12:03:48 PM PST by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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These “star seeds“, “star children” or “star people” are described by Brad and Francie Steiger as individuals whose ‘souls' were formally incarnated on the worlds of other star systems and then traveled to Earth and decided to incarnate here in order to “boost” the spiritual evolutionary development of humanity.

See? See? L. Ron Hubbard wasn't a nut after all.

19 posted on 01/15/2007 2:35:11 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Spork weasels ain't afraid of nuthin' but running out of sardines.)
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Canada is doomed.


20 posted on 01/15/2007 2:45:28 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; Quix

seen this?


22 posted on 05/20/2007 3:45:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 18, 2007.)
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To: Alex Murphy; All; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; andysandmikesmom; Angelas; ...

UFO PING LIST PING

PLEASE let me know if you want on or off this ping list.

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Dave, I decided to go ahead and ping the list. The issues presented are significant enough for worthy discussion.

We always get derisive, dismissive ignorant folks poking hostile assaultive diatribes at us while the mods look the other way. What’s new about that? Goes with the territory. They will have more than egg on their faces when things really come down. I hope it’s a LONG time from now but I don’t know the timing! We just have seen a marked increase in information releases—in quantity, frequency, quality, authoritativeness etc. the last 6-12 months, as you know.

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This is pretty standard

globalist/new age/NWO

propaganda imho. Anyone read up on the topic has read these main points and themes repeatedly. Some of the assertions coming from highly placed mililtary and other technical experts working in the field with the ET’s.

As Scripture says—if even an angel of light preaches any other Gospel, let him be accursed.

I still don’t know if the Scriptural & Book of Enoch descriptions of the “fallen angels,” “watchers includes all such critters from wherever, or not. It appears that that is accurate.

Assuming so, the WATCHERS are still eagerly polluting the gene pool in violation of God Almighty’s orders and shall suffer their proper judgment at the appointed time.

Certainly it is the satan led group of fallen angels who are involved in helping the NWO folks and so many others construe Christianity as destructive etc.

They have also evidently convinced the NWO folks that satan will WIN the war at Armageddon. Thankfully, they are wrong. Very wrong.

The business about earth being seeded by ET’s is a common theme. I’ve said for years hereon that evolution will bite the dust in the interest of this “new” explanation that’s actually been around a long time.

There is certainly an interest in human DNA on the part of ET’s or those masquerading as ET’s. Some have imagined it as a monitoring of the effects of pollution. Others as a means of revitalizing races of ET’s dibilitated by eons of cloning.

I see the above article as another foray into the public arena preparing the world’s populace for the GREAT DECEPTION of the END TIMES that The Bible warns us of.

ET’s are NOT our friends. But they will be sold as such rather wholesale—friends and saviors—of us from ourselves etc. . . . and possibly even from a “bad race or 3 of ET’s.”

It is essential that Christians know God closely and are able to Hear Christ’s still small Voice within by His Holy Spirit as He taught. Certainly they must know Scripture, too.

Thankfully, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, EVERY TONGUE CONFESS that JESUS CHRIST IS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS . . .

And, if critters do not confess that Jesus came in the flesh; died for our sins; rose again, ascended to the right hand of The Father . . . have absolutely nothing to do with them. Rebuke and resist them in the Name of Jesus and by His Blood.

Abductions can be stopped cold by a Believer IN RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS RESISTING AND REBUKING THE CRITTERS IN CHRIST’S NAME AND ASSERTING THEIR SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY AS BELIEVERS.

There will likely be a lot of derision and dismissiveness on this thread. Ignorance is like that. The derision and dismissiveness will pale and evaporate soon enough.

We have been seing for the last 6-12 months a significantly inreased preparation of the populace for the overt revealing of the ET/UFO stuff.

A lot of NEW AGE idiots teach that massive UFO’s are coming to take Christians away so that the earth can enter the NEW AGE unencumbered by ‘their backwards, destructive vibrations and beliefs.’

Of course that would be an interesting explanation for THE RAPTURE for a global government needing to calm a paniced populace LEFT BEHIND.

I would caution those who seem to get their jollies being assaultive and dismissive . . . such will cost you . . . mocking in a bad-faith, haughty etc. sort of way is not a favored activity of God Almighty. He WILL humble all who take such liberties in His time and ways.

But hey, if you enjoy having more than your hands slapped super hard, carry on. Don’t let me spoil your fun. You have been warned that the cost will be significant . . . and may well be more than you feel able to pay at the time.

Nevertheless, let the games begin.


23 posted on 05/20/2007 5:40:55 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: All

There are those who believe that life began here out there...


28 posted on 05/20/2007 6:01:07 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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the unbelievable notion

Totally unbelievable notion.

35 posted on 05/21/2007 3:54:28 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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Got a question?If they have no space cadets to get the DNA from , how can they find dNA in us earth lings? Sounds screwy to me.
37 posted on 05/21/2007 6:02:04 AM PDT by betsyross1776 (i)
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