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Anglicans ‘can reject women priests’
titusonenine ^ | 1/09/2007

Posted on 01/09/2007 3:09:11 PM PST by sionnsar

Traditionalists won a victory against the liberal American branch of Anglicanism yesterday when a panel set up by the Archbishop of Canterbury ruled that they could not be compelled to accept women priests.

The “panel of reference”, a body created by Dr Rowan Williams to adjudicate in international disputes, said that the “non-acceptance” of women’s ministry was a “recognised theological position”.

The panel’s findings followed complaints from an American diocese that does not ordain women that it had been undermined by the national Episcopal Church, which had effectively made female ordination mandatory.

Though the panel’s recommendations have no binding legal authority, its decision to uphold the rights of opponents of women priests will have implications for the whole Church.

The findings will also come as a blow to the new Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, Katherine Jefferts Schori, the first woman head of an individual Anglican province, and they were angrily condemned by fellow liberals.

But traditionalists said that the panel had recognised that they had a continuing place in the Church.

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1 posted on 01/09/2007 3:09:14 PM PST by sionnsar
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2 posted on 01/09/2007 3:09:48 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

Rearranging the deck chairs on a doomed ship?


3 posted on 01/09/2007 3:40:35 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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To: sionnsar
the “non-acceptance” of women’s ministry was a “recognised theological position”.

Just out of curiosity: For those who hold that women can't be priestesses let alone bishopesses, who do they consider to be the Presiding Bishop of TEC? And how can two mutually exclusive theological positions be legitimate?

4 posted on 01/09/2007 3:51:36 PM PST by GCC Catholic
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To: sionnsar

That's just great. Bishop Williams rejects healthy, hetrosexual women as priests, but apparently is OK with an alcoholic, divorced, fornicating, homosexual male bishop.


5 posted on 01/09/2007 4:01:22 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: SuzyQue

Well, it's the Panel of Reference actually -- and they've not responded to other calls (yet).


6 posted on 01/09/2007 4:12:24 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: GCC Catholic

I suspect they'd say she is not legitimate, though she holds the office. You've got both theological and organizational issues here.


7 posted on 01/09/2007 4:13:49 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: SuzyQue

No, Suzy... Bishop Williams neither rejects heterosexual women as priests, nor accepts alcoholic, divorced, homosexual bishops. Despite his previously held opinions (from before taking his current office), he has overseen the demand for repentance of the ECUSA for electing Bishop Vicky Gene Robinson; and he has merely affirmed the right of dioceses and parishes to dissent from his position that women should be ordained priests. He has not yet done anything about the ECUSA's defiance over Robinson, precisely because he is being consistent with his stance that each bishop has distinct apostolic authority. (Essentially, he has told ECUSA never to "do that again," but can't force them to rescind or annull Robinson's anointment.)


8 posted on 01/09/2007 9:05:03 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: GCC Catholic

>> For those who hold that women can't be priestesses let alone bishopesses, who do they consider to be the Presiding Bishop of TEC? And how can two mutually exclusive theological positions be legitimate? <<

My understanding is that the Presiding Bishop is not analogous to an archbishop; it's merely a legal (administrative) position, and, therefore, the conservative bishops don't have to recognize any spiritual authority, merely a legal authority. The King of England, for instance, exercise authority over the Anglican Church, without being a bishop, of course.


9 posted on 01/09/2007 9:11:52 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: sionnsar

What's your opinion regarding my supposition in post #9?b


10 posted on 01/09/2007 9:12:27 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: SuzyQue; dangus

There's a branch of Anglicanism that strongly believes itself to be part of the apostolic, universal Church (the other "branches" of which are Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy). Neither of those other two accept, have ever accepted, or will ever accept women priests, so for someone to say that theologically one *must* accept them now is in essence saying Anglicanism is no longer part of apostolic Christianity.

To not admit even the theological possibility that the "conservatives" are right on this, is to say that the Church was wrong for 2000 years, which of course is nonsense. For Anglicanism to at all claim it has apostolic ties, it *has* to recognize the legitimacy of the position against women priests. Otherwise it become just another make-your-own-rules denomination.

I wonder how much this decision stemmed from the archbishop's recent meeting with Benedict XVI.


11 posted on 01/10/2007 5:41:29 AM PST by Claud
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To: SuzyQue

If I recall correctly, Mary Magdalen was first to witness the resurrected Christ.


12 posted on 01/10/2007 11:58:31 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug
Mary Magdalen was NOT an Apostle, nor did she ever lay claim to any special position. At Jesus' bidding, she ran and told the guys she had seen Jesus and gave them His message. She was delighted to do as He asked as she was devoted to Him as master. End of story.

All Christians are called to testify to the Risen Christ, but that does not make us all priests, prophets or apostles. We are individually members of the Body of Christ and we are served by clergy who oversee our spiritual welfare and are responsible before God for our growth in the faith. God knew what He was doing when, in the Person of Jesus Christ, He chose 12 men to be His closest companions to whom He taught everything necessary to help grow and sustain His Church. Women had a role to play in all of that (and some were more prominent than others), but it was never the role of Apostle or Prophet, or Priest. If we claim to be a Biblical Church we must follow the Biblical pattern set forth by our Lord Jesus Christ and accept the position He has given us as women in His Church. That is my position on this issue. I am an Anglican woman.
13 posted on 01/12/2007 5:57:33 PM PST by LibreOuMort (Give me liberty, or give me death! (Patrick Henry))
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To: dangus

I believe you are correct...


14 posted on 01/12/2007 6:03:23 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar
Traditionalists won a victory against the liberal American branch
of Anglicanism yesterday when a panel set up by the Archbishop of
Canterbury ruled that they could not be compelled to accept women priests.


"Choice" for conservatives.
Sounds good to me.
15 posted on 01/12/2007 6:10:43 PM PST by VOA
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To: LibreOuMort
Thanks, though I never claimed anything different.

Before becoming a Jew however, I'd spent some time in the (gasp)Episcopal Church and actually met a couple of (yikes) female priests who I think carried that word fairly well.

Yes, I'm Orthodox, but think I could (shhh) tolerate a female rabbi here and there. A lot of women tend to be good care carriers and givers.

Though I fear God, I argue with Him sometimes too, so....

Everything Good to You and Yours.

16 posted on 01/12/2007 11:17:48 PM PST by onedoug
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