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1 posted on 01/08/2007 4:54:43 PM PST by sionnsar
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2 posted on 01/08/2007 4:55:17 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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The ad, an open letter to the community, labels anti-gay views as extremist and even dangerous and says they conflict with the stance of the Episcopal Church, which it describes as mainstream and "too boring for the culture wars."

Basically, these people are saying that Christianity as it has been believed for 2000 years is too "extremist" and should not be allowed. Honestly, I think that their position is the extremist one, particularly as they don't want to allow people to simply continue to believe in a religion as it has for a long time been constituted.

3 posted on 01/08/2007 5:03:09 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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remind one another of the golden rule, which is love your neighbor as yourself

That is not the Golden Rule...

More importantly, the issue is not love, the issue is holiness and righteousness

5 posted on 01/08/2007 8:17:58 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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"I believe that the vast majority of sexual orientation is genetic," she said. "To counsel someone to change their sexual orientation makes as much sense as asking them to change the color of their eyes."


LOL It isn't about what you "think". It has never been proven to be genetic. I like to operate my life on truth. If I "think" I should turn right, but the map says to go left, I would be wrong. No matter what I "think".


Let's define what Love is. Is love always telling someone what they want to hear? Or is it having the boldness to tell them the truth? I know for my children, it has always been to tell them the truth. They learn from the truth. If you touch the flame on the stove, you will get burned. If you engage in homosexuality (which is clearly a sin in the scriptures) you can remain seperated from blessings from God. It is out of LOVE we speak the truth. We want our friends and family who may be engaging in this sin, to know the truth. The Truth will set them free!

I do believe homosexuals should be allowed to attend a church, every single person in a church is a sinner. However, if they call themselves Christians and they openly engage in the sin, there are exact steps outlined in Matthew 18:15-20. 1 Corinthians 5:9-13. Read these verses in the bible and determine for yourself the truth.

You will notice homosexuality is just among many other sins that are prevelant in the church. The church's who stand firm on God's word, need to prayer for endurance.


7 posted on 01/09/2007 8:03:29 AM PST by CANBFORGIVEN (! Corinthians 2:14)
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"Greg Sinn, 59, of Rohnert Park, who identified himself as a gay Episcopalian..."

Just because his name is Sinn. there's no reason he should feel obligated to...


8 posted on 01/10/2007 6:38:02 PM PST by beelzepug (the Nikonoclast)
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