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1 posted on 12/28/2006 8:37:30 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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** The Pope wants God to remain as traditional Christianity sees him -- the God of the Crusaders, a God whose followers are on a short leash and allowed little by way of interpretation, questioning or free-thinking. A transgression of the 10 Commandments is a sin and that's all there is to it. **

The truth will prevail.


2 posted on 12/28/2006 8:42:00 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Gone are the days when one could walk into an African Methodist Episcopal church and witness a portrait of a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Jesus hovering above a room full of black believers.

Apparently the author lives in a alternate universe where AME churches routinely used to buy used portraits of Jesus imported from Lutheran churches in Norway.

3 posted on 12/28/2006 8:44:01 AM PST by wideawake (1)
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To: Alex Murphy

The Pope is not worried. He has a "plan", referred to in the Catholic Catechism, to bring all those Muslims into the fold by playing a little fast and loose with the facts, which never stopped a Roman Pontiff before.


9 posted on 12/28/2006 8:57:56 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Does Pope Benedict's tone imply that God -- the Christian God in any event -- is dead?

No ... the people are. Just because people don't exercise their faith does not mean that God is not needed. This article is useless and just follows today's believers who only want God on thier terms.

12 posted on 12/28/2006 9:31:13 AM PST by al_c
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What a crock!


16 posted on 12/28/2006 9:54:52 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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reworking religion to fit their own mores

that is the problem right there. because social mores descend to the gutter, wrong becomes right? i don't think so.

17 posted on 12/28/2006 9:56:37 AM PST by xsmommy
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"What does this mean? Christianity is growing all right, but not in world financial centers, not in nations housing the world's foremost educational institutions, not in the world's technology hubs. It is growing most rapidly among the poor and the uneducated."

He talks as if there is something wrong with it.

19 posted on 12/28/2006 10:16:23 AM PST by jboot (If I can't get a Josiah, I'll settle for a Jehu)
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Educated believers are demanding more variety, having more doubts and reworking religion to fit their own mores, lifestyles and cultures.

Well, there's always Episcopaganism.

If the author things the Pope is going to bend to the fads and fashions of the day he/she/it is smoking some pretty good stuff.

21 posted on 12/28/2006 10:20:35 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Merry Christmas)
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European transmogrification of this religion born in Israel imposed Eurocentric visions onto its icons.

Disdaining European medievals for their lack of cosmopolitan dark-hued models makes about as much sense as contemning them for not celebrating Native American culture. Does this writer complain about the scarcity of Africans and Europeans in old Chinese art?

56 posted on 12/28/2006 12:16:51 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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Educated believers are demanding more variety, having more doubts and reworking religion to fit their own mores, lifestyles and cultures. Religion without penance -- no hair shirts, no self-flagellation? No wonder the Pope is worried.

The writer is an imbecile.

The Pope's worry, is that of a father who is not long for this world and who sees his children walking inexorably towards a precipice.

It is not the worry of a CEO who's concerned about the market for his product and ultimately, his own job security.

IOW, his worry is for others, not for himself.

60 posted on 12/28/2006 12:34:03 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: Alex Murphy
The Pope wants God to remain as traditional Christianity sees him -- the God of the Crusaders, a God whose followers are on a short leash and allowed little by way of interpretation, questioning or free-thinking. A transgression of the 10 Commandments is a sin and that's all there is to it.

Educated believers are demanding more variety, having more doubts and reworking religion to fit their own mores, lifestyles and cultures. Religion without penance -- no hair shirts, no self-flagellation? No wonder the Pope is worried.

What condescension! But she is right on one point. "Educated" believers want God made in their own image, and are deluded about the nature of reality and the powers of science. People live in their comfortable bubbles and refuse to think about the future. Europe enjoys the moment and refuses to provide for the future. Yet the apocalytic message of global warming terrifies them, I guess because this is something that might impact them in the near term. Didn't Louis XV say "Apres moi, L'deluge?"

87 posted on 12/28/2006 1:30:15 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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Educated believers are demanding more variety, having more doubts and reworking religion to fit their own mores, lifestyles and cultures.

Well I wonder how the "educated believers" will adapt to the islamic cult in the not too distant future?

100 posted on 12/28/2006 2:48:02 PM PST by kapn kuek
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To: Alex Murphy; wideawake
What does this mean? Christianity is growing all right, but not in world financial centers, not in nations housing the world's foremost educational institutions, not in the world's technology hubs. It is growing most rapidly among the poor and the uneducated.

And when that happens will chr*stianity become politically correct, or will liberals turn on the Third Worlders whose primitive beliefs they've defended and apologized for for so long?

Maybe their heads wille explode as they try to figure it out. Sounds like a "Captain Kirk" moment to me!

110 posted on 12/28/2006 5:07:55 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . velo' `amad 'ish 'itto behitvadda` Yosef 'el-'echayv.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Historical evidence places Jesus as a first-century Middle Eastern Jew. This means Jesus probably looked a lot more like Yasser Arafat than a Nordic prince with long blond locks. European transmogrification of this religion born in Israel imposed Eurocentric visions onto its icons. Thus, Jesus' features were magically overtaken by those of his more powerful followers: the Europeans.

I don't know what Christ looked like, but this author does not know their Bible. Christ came into the flesh via two tribes Judah, the 'king' line and Levi the 'priest' line.

Genesis 49:1 And Jacob/Israel called unto his sons, and said, "Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the LAST days."

v3 Reuben....

v5 Simeon and Levi...

v8 Judah....

v13 Zebulum.....

v14 Issachar....

v16 Dan....

V19 Gad....

V21 Naphtali....

v22 Joseph (double blessing in Ephraim and Manasseh

v27 Benjamin...

Now Luke tells us that Mary the mother of Christ was from the tribe of Judah, King David and the tribe of Levi. These tribes still exist to this day even though the majority still to this day do not not who they are as foretold by the Prophets.

127 posted on 12/29/2006 5:25:21 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Alex Murphy

According to Ms. Erbe, we here in the west are so smart and technologically advanced, that we have outgrown the medieval, "Eurocentric" notion of God that poor, benighted Benedict XVI is trying to impose on us. What Erbe doesn't realize is that long after she and her writings have been forgotten, long after her opinions on religion have been discredited, the Catholic Church will be going strong. If the gates of hell cannot prevail against us, the mindless rantings of would-be theologians such as Erbe certainly won't be able to.


129 posted on 12/29/2006 5:40:43 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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