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1 posted on 12/20/2006 7:56:20 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 12/20/2006 7:57:29 AM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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More good news. God bless my Orthodox brothers and sisters! God bless Benedict XVI!


3 posted on 12/20/2006 8:00:14 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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“We are essentially one Church already, we’re sister Churches — it’s not like relations with the Protestants,” he said.

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Oy. :)

5 posted on 12/20/2006 8:08:14 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Thanks for posting this NYer. It is important to feel that we are essentially one Church, since both have the same Apostolic authority, valid priesthood, and sacraments. Nothing like that exists between the Protestants and Catholics or the Orthodox.

Metropolitan John [of Pergamon], spoke favorably of a “universal primacy” that the Orthodox Churches could accept as long as it did not undermine the ecclesiological integrity of any local church

This may seem like a novelty to the Catholics, but the Met. is merely echoing what the Greek side never opposed. The Seven Ecumenical Councils attest, implicitly and explicitly, that there is universal primacy in the Pope of Rome. One must not confuse primacy with jurisdiction.

8 posted on 12/20/2006 12:14:55 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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Apparently, not all Orthodox are thrilled about the prospect.

Greek Orthodox Monks in Violent Clash

9 posted on 12/20/2006 1:06:34 PM PST by marshmallow
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Orthodox ping. This is very big news.


12 posted on 12/20/2006 3:00:31 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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This is good news. Yet EP is first among eaqual, so a "deal" must be agreed with all Ortodox Churches, Russian, Serbian, Bulgarian etc.
And that must be followed by practical steps, not only words.

Complicated issue is that all other Ortodox Churches are (politicaly) rivals with EP, Russian is first to be rival. So ecumenizm must not lean only on EP.
Ortodox world is not working like Vatican, and EP is just honorary title. All Ortodox Churches must be included.


17 posted on 12/20/2006 4:40:52 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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Well, I hope this works out, but I wish that the Vatican would put this much energy into bringing some of our U.S. bishops back to the Catholic faith.


33 posted on 12/21/2006 2:31:04 AM PST by irishjuggler
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This is good news, but as I pointed out in my reaction to the joint communique released by Pope Benedect and Patriarch Bartholemew on the occasion of the Pope's visit to Constantinople, the joint statements coming from meetings in which the Slavic churches are involved always seem weightier and more like real progress toward union, even if they aren't so warm in tone.


46 posted on 12/22/2006 11:42:53 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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