Skip to comments.Why Virginia is SO important
Posted on 12/19/2006 8:59:59 AM PST by sionnsar
Many of you who read this will know of the votes that were declared this weekend in several churches in Virginia. Ruth Gledhill has some good coverage here and you can see a video of the CANA Press Conference here. The guy on the still of the video is Martyn Minns, the new CANA Bishop and, as somebody who has had the privilege of working alongside him, I can tell you all that he rocks. Even when wearing purple.
The reason why the Virginia votes are so important is the following. Whether you agreed with the consecration as a Bishop of Martyn or whether you disagreed, he is a totally valid Bishop in the Anglican Communion. To reject his consecration as a Bishop of Nigeria would be to, at the same time, reject the consecration of Sandy Millar by Orombi of Uganda. They have both been consecrated by Primates and their consecration is valid.
What is interesting though about Martyn Minns role is that, as a Bishop of CANA, with the breakaway votes we have seen this weekend the collapse of the claim of TEC to represent the historic Anglican Church in the USA has begun. Let me explain. In the Anglican Church we have these things called dioceses. Each diocese covers a specific geographic area and has a specific bishop. No square inch of the world can belong to two separate dioceses OR have two bishops. If you are the rector of the Parish of Greater Lessing in the Diocese of Middleshire, you cant suddenly decide that you dont like your bishop and youre going to move to a different diocese. All the parishes around you still belong to the diocese of Middleshire and so do you.
And thats pretty much the argument that TEC have been using (and legally threatening as well) against parishes and dioceses that arent terribly happy that their national leadership are a bunch of apostate men and women. And its a pretty good argument because the Episcopal structures of the Church are pretty much at the heart of what it means to be Anglican (as I argued only yesterday).
So . Whats going on in Virginia. Well, there are three logical ways to view whats behind the formation of CANA and the role of Martyn Minns (have I mentioned yet that he rocks? For the record, Martyn rocks).
Do you see where Im going with this? CANA is the beginning of the end for TEC, and they know it. It is the rump, but seeded and growing rump, of a movement that will provide a framework for orthodox bishops and ecclesiastical structures to be put in place in the USA where the current bishops and structures have apostatised. While some TEC Dioceses will join the new orthodox framework as a whole, in other places parishes will need to be transferred into the emerging, Communion recognised, structures in order to maintain Episcopal polity. I think Bob Duncan of the Anglican Communion Network recognised as much when he writes:
There is no question that the clergy and people of The Falls Church, Truro Church, Church of the Apostles, Christ the Redeemer, St. Stephens, Church of the Word, St. Margarets and Potomac Falls remain fully and faithfully Anglican. Their deliberate decision-making process and patient efforts over the last two years to chart a peaceful and prayerful course forward should be an example to all those contemplating their future relationship with The Episcopal Church. It is now up to the leadership of the Diocese of Virginia to choose between embracing a charitable parting of ways or pursuing destructive litigation. I pray they can see their way to selecting the first course.
But that isnt the clincher. The clincher is the first sentence of the following paragraph:
Led by Bishop Martyn Minns of Truro Church and the Rev. John Yates of The Falls Church, a number of Virginia parishes began a 40day process of discernment this fall.
Not, Led by the Rev. Martyn Minns , not, Led by Missionary Bishop Martyn Minns or Assistant Bishop Martyn Minns. Oh no. The Anglican Communion Network simply calls him Bishop Martyn Minns. At the same time, can you see any reference to Peter Lee, the current Bishop of Virginia? No, the only reference in Bob Duncans statement is to the leadership of the Diocese of Virginia.
So, you might have missed it, but Sunday was possibly the most important day in US Anglican history for decades and whats going on leaves me, and I hope you, terribly excited about what God is doing for those who trust in his power. Amen!!!!!!
Update : This post is being discussed over at Stand Firm.
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His logic is flawed. The Communion ruled out "border crossing" when it accepted the Windsor Report. There is no reason for the Communion to recognize Martyn Minns any more than it has recognized bishops in the AMiA, which is to say, not at all.
Is Peter Ould a youth pastor somewhere? He writes like his audience is about 16 years old.
If (or when?) the world wide Anglican Communion fully cuts communion with TEC, then of course Minns will recognized as a rightful bishop in Virginia. An apostate Church is no longer a Church at all...and it's bishops will be considered to have vacated their offices, regardless of whether TEC as a denomination goes on or not.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but AMiA's American bishops were consecrated AFTER the formation of the AMiA....whereas Martyn was consecrated, and unchallenged in that consecration, before (or simultaneously) as the formation of CANA. Therefore Minns is ALREADY recognized as a Bishop.
He does write pretty clearly and concisely, doesn't he?
No more than the AMiA bishops, who were also consecrated by Global South archbishops.
I've heard the CANA situation described as a move by Peter Akinola to help move the center of Anglicanism to Nigeria ... not coincidentally under his control. In many ways, it reminds one of the the Constantinople vs. Rome split.
Not really, but that wasn't the basis of my conclusion. It was his self-conscious attempts to sound 'hip'.
But maybe you think his article 'rocks'.
The Eastern Orthodox v. Rome split in AD 1024 was overty over an archane discription of the inter-relationship of the Trinity....and covertly over politics.
The Episcopal split is over the very authority of scriptures--reflected in something as basic as ethics (and ethics on which NO Christian group has disagreed for 2000 years now). To suggest that the Virginia churches are just stooges of an African Archbishop's power grap is just silly.
Sounds like ou've been listening to the revisionists of TEC too long.
You must be an Anglo-Catholic ... ;-)
I give you points for enthusiasm.
Pretty far off the mark. Calvinist.
Oh no, even worse!*
*says a 5 pointer AND firm believer in Covenant Theology seminarian...
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