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Should Catholic priests have the right to marry?
beliefnet.com/blogs/crunchycon ^ | Wednesday, December 06, 2006 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 12/16/2006 1:07:45 PM PST by Zemo

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To: vladimir998

I own a Bible. There is also a reference to Babylon in Revelation as well as Peter 5:13. Which Babylon are we talking about?


261 posted on 12/17/2006 2:26:41 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: wagglebee

What specific beliefs of mine are false according to Scripture. Thank you.


262 posted on 12/17/2006 2:27:41 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Catechism of the Catholic Church
263 posted on 12/17/2006 2:30:19 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: marajade

Are you having difficulty following this?

I did link, for your convenience, a very, very brief Protestant article which supports what I have been saying here. Look at the section on Revelation. When you've looked at it, get back to me. Thanks. Yes, there will be a quiz.


264 posted on 12/17/2006 2:31:08 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: wagglebee

Again and for the last time, what specific charges of falsehood of mine are you making about my beliefs according to Scripture.


265 posted on 12/17/2006 2:32:25 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

Just to let you know, several minutes ago Wagglebee left the thread.


266 posted on 12/17/2006 2:34:01 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: marajade

In the five centuries since sola scriptura was invented, the Church has repeatedly declared that it is false. Whether you use the term sola scriptura or not, that is what you seem to adhere to.


267 posted on 12/17/2006 2:34:20 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: vladimir998

From your own link:

"but there is no evidence that Peter was ever in Babylon"

Where was Peter?


268 posted on 12/17/2006 2:35:39 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: vladimir998

I'm still here, I'm just done explaining facts. I've posted a link to the Catechism twice now, I daresay that it explains things better than I do.


269 posted on 12/17/2006 2:36:19 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: marajade

oops, I spoke too soon.

I have to side with the evidence on this one. Sola scriptura is a modern invention. It is not evidenced in scripture anywhere, and therefore is self-refuting. It is unknown to Jews as well.


270 posted on 12/17/2006 2:36:22 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: marajade

You wrote: "Where was Peter?"

In Rome.


271 posted on 12/17/2006 2:37:32 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: wagglebee

My foundation is the Bible. I've never even heard or read sola scriptura. Prove your charge of my false beliefs according to the Bible.


272 posted on 12/17/2006 2:38:08 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

You wrote: "My foundation is the Bible. I've never even heard or read sola scriptura. Prove your charge of my false beliefs according to the Bible."

You probably just expressed a belief in sola scriptura. Whether or not you are well educated enough to have heard or read the term before is immaterial.


273 posted on 12/17/2006 2:40:56 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Zemo

There are married Roman Catholic priests in the Eastern Rite churches.

The real question is, why is there a double standard for Roman Catholic priests?


274 posted on 12/17/2006 2:41:19 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: marajade

Sola scriptura means proving something based upon the Bible alone! I don't have to prove anything based on this, because I know it to be a fabricated falsehood.


275 posted on 12/17/2006 2:42:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: vladimir998

What belief of mine is false according to scripture? All I'm asking for is just one example.

I just don't believe that Babylon is a codeword for Rome. Even your own link you provided above disputes it.


276 posted on 12/17/2006 2:43:16 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: wagglebee

Do you believe in the Bible?


277 posted on 12/17/2006 2:43:56 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: FormerLib

You wrote: "There are married Roman Catholic priests in the Eastern Rite churches."

Incorrect. There are married priests in the Eastern Catholic churches. There are no married "Roman Catholic" priests in the Eastern rite churches.

"The real question is, why is there a double standard for Roman Catholic priests?"

There is no doublestandard. The same thing is expected from every man who comes to the priesthood in the Roman Church as a single man.


278 posted on 12/17/2006 2:44:52 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: marajade

Yes, and it tells me to also stand on tradition.


279 posted on 12/17/2006 2:45:02 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: marajade

And the Bible also tells me the pillar and foundation of the truth is the Church.


280 posted on 12/17/2006 2:45:44 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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