Posted on 12/16/2006 1:07:45 PM PST by Zemo
Of course they should, as long as they are no longer Catholic Priest.
To each other? In some of the CommiecRAT States they can.
If they vowed they would not marry, then they shouldn't marry.
If the Pope mandates they, as priests, cannot marry, then it should be followed, as well.
Eastern Rite Catholics have married clergy along the lines of Orthodox Greek Rite practice and yet they are fully Catholic (the so called Uniates) and I also think this is allowed among the Coptic Rite Catholics and other Eastern Rite Catholics.
So to be correct, Latin Rite Catholic clergy are the only Catholic clergy forbidden to marry.
You are correct sir.
So to be correct, Latin Rite Catholic clergy are the only Catholic clergy forbidden to marry though this is in violation of the rulings of the Ecumenical Council on married clergy (though I forget which one).
So if someone is Irish and wants to be a married Catholic priest he has to move to the Western Ukraine and join the Greek Catholic Church?
Why is an Orthodox Christian butting in where his opinion is unwanted?
However, I'll note that in neither any Rite of the Catholic Church nor in any Orthodox Church do "priests have a right to marry."
Rather, married men are permitted to become priests. And even in Orthodoxy, only married men who will be parish priests, as opposed to monks, and who will not be bishops, may be ordained to the priesthood.
The Church IS NOT a democracy, this matter has been settled and reaffirmed by successive Popes for centuries. Any priest who cannot remain celibate will have no problem being released from his vows. Nothing else needs to be said on the subject.
You want in the club, play by the rules. If not, go play golf in Augusta.
The Orthodox consider the Catholics to be a fellow Apostolic church that has fallen into heresy and schism and thus their business - especially since the Pope has made a reconciliation with the Orthodox his mission. So that makes what the Catholics do, Orthodox business.
I have a problem with a universal church not having universal rules. The ecumenical councils are clear on this.
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LOL!
The Church is in fact a republic. If is not, then why did the Apostolic bishops go to ecumenical councils and base their decisions on the vote of the majority?
Even the Pope is bound by the decisions of the Ecumenical Councils - arrived at by ballot.
Dear Zemo,
Mr. Dreher is not a Catholic. In fact, it is my understanding that in order to be received into the Orthodox Church, he was obligated to formally and publicly renounce the "errors" of the Catholic Church.
Thus, unlike the vast majority of Orthodox Christians, Mr. Dreher is an apostate from the Catholic Faith.
Catholics really aren't interested in the inaccurate, bumbling ramblings of apostates.
"The Orthodox consider the Catholics to be a fellow Apostolic church that has fallen into heresy and schism and thus their business - especially since the Pope has made a reconciliation with the Orthodox his mission. So that makes what the Catholics do, Orthodox business."
That's nice. The Catholic Church consider the Orthodox to be an Aposotlic Church that has fallen into schism and heresy, as well. Nonetheless, even though we hope and pray for reunification with the Orthodox, we try to avoid the hubris of telling the Orthodox how to do things.
We acknowledge that even should we ever find a way to reunion (and I believe that reunion will not happen before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ), we will still have somewhat different customs, traditions and practices, and it would be better for a peaceful reunion if we didn't try to tell each other how to run each other's Churches.
sitetest
Yes, but laymen have no ability to force any ecumenical council.
Is that not what happened? The Club violated its own rules and membership splintered?
Dear Zemo,
"The Church is in fact a republic. If is not, then why did the Apostolic bishops go to ecumenical councils and base their decisions on the vote of the majority?
"Even the Pope is bound by the decisions of the Ecumenical Councils - arrived at by ballot."
That may be the Orthodox view (and even there, I'm not sure I've ever run into any Orthodox who said the Church is a "republic"), but it is not the Catholic view.
In that Mr. Dreher is commenting on the CATHOLIC Church, and not Orthodoxy, it seems irrelevant what Orthodox think the Church is.
sitetest
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