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A RETURN TO THE GUILLOTINE (END TIMES ALERT)
FOX NEWS ON THE AIR ^ | Dec 16, 2006 | Blogger

Posted on 12/16/2006 10:26:30 AM PST by Blogger

Was just watching Fox concerning the controversy over lethal injection in California, NY and elsewhere. A judge thinks they need to revamp the injection formula to insure that they perp doesn't suffer.

Mark Klaas was then brought on the air and said that we need to come up with some way of executing that insures no pain or suffering. The only way, he said, to do that is to bring back the Guillotine.

For Bible prophecy watchers, this is just one more piece of the puzzle:

Revelation 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


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To: NRA2BFree

Thanks tons, Dear Heart,

True. true.

And may you and your loved ones be ever closer to Our Lord Jesus in the coming year . . . awash in His Love, provision, safety, comfort, Presence, Guidance . . .


21 posted on 12/16/2006 2:15:03 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix; Alex Murphy; topcat54; Terriergal; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Lord_Calvinus; Frumanchu
I read a serious report a few years ago of some Federal employee happening upon a warehouse full of guillotines. He was supposedly exhorted to keep quiet about it, if he wanted to live.

I don't recall the source.

Perhaps it was published by Lark News? Or The Holy Observer? Or The Sacred Sandwich?

22 posted on 12/16/2006 2:33:15 PM PST by Gamecock (Pelagianism is the natural heresy of zealous Christians who are not interested in theology. J.I.P.)
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To: Quix

ping


23 posted on 12/16/2006 3:02:06 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Quix

There was legislation in Georgia a while back that wanted to reintroduce the guillotine. IT was defeated.


24 posted on 12/16/2006 3:03:15 PM PST by Blogger
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To: NRA2BFree

Agreed on the latter part. We don't really have enough info concerning who does the beheading in Revelation. I just thought it was quite interesting to see that this is still being discussed as a method of execution in Western lands.


25 posted on 12/16/2006 3:06:04 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger

For now.

Georgia. State of the Georgia Guide Stones.


26 posted on 12/16/2006 3:27:30 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Blogger
http://www.issuesandalibis.org/campsd.html

Here is a unconfirmed site of concentration camp style trains with guillotines.

Those who look to the heavens for His coming do understand the implications.
27 posted on 12/16/2006 5:29:28 PM PST by Creationist ( Evolution created it all from nothing in 15 billion years. Thats' not religious faith?)
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To: Bobby777; F15Eagle

Ping


28 posted on 12/16/2006 5:35:33 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: Creationist

It's nigh.


29 posted on 12/16/2006 8:12:24 PM PST by Blogger
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To: F15Eagle
And islam likes to chop off heads too

Exactly. Another scripture to look at is Rev 18:9

“The kings of the earth who committed fornication and lived luxuriously with her will weep and lament for her, when they see the smoke of her burning, 10standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.’

This could be Islamic terrorism, blowing up a nuclear bomb in Rome.

31 posted on 12/17/2006 8:57:21 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: P-Marlowe
FWIW, I don't see the United States in end-time prophecy so what we do here is irrelevant.

I'm not sure, but I think Rev 3:17 is a reference to the United States.

32 posted on 12/17/2006 5:38:06 PM PST by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Seven_0
I'm not sure, but I think Rev 3:17 is a reference to the United States.

I don't think so.

33 posted on 12/17/2006 7:55:53 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
I don't think so.

Good argument, but my argument isn’t any better. I was in a hurry last night. My main objection to your post #7 is to “what we do here is irrelevant.”

It is no coincidence that Christian men founded this country. They recognized that liberty out produces tyranny and set up a government that fosters the production of wealth and the increase of knowledge, two necessary things in the last days. The U.S. was instrumental in the outcome of the two World Wars, and in God’s plan, we brought about the birth of Israel. God is using the U.S. today to preserve Israel. If we abandon Israel, then Israel will stand alone (as Gideon) with only Christ to help.

I believe that the Laodicean Church is the last church of the gentile era and it is marked by wealth so that men will be eating and drinking and marrying and giving in marriage and living as if there is no impending judgment.

I cannot say how things will play out, but it is easy to see what has played out.

34 posted on 12/17/2006 11:09:16 PM PST by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Seven_0
...And what is your opinion of the content debated in "So shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things..."
35 posted on 12/18/2006 1:13:40 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die)
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To: Freedom4US
For starters, it's fairly well established that human consciousness remains for at least a couple minutes upon beheading, if contemporary accounts of the French Revolution can be believed.

VERY unlikely. Leaving out all other possible issues with continued conciousness, by definition upon decapitation blood pressure immediately drops to zero. Which causes immediate loss of conciousness.

There is an extremely simple, non-violent way to execute. Small chamber, pump in nitrogen. As the concentration of oxygen drops, the person passes out without even realizing it.

Leave at 100% nitrogen for 30 minutes. Remove and dispose of body.

36 posted on 09/23/2012 4:32:02 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: F15Eagle
Certainly a very efficient way of killing that requires little cost after the initial construction.

Don't think so.

Doubt a squad of six would have a productivity of more than 4 to 6 per hour. Getting live people onto and bodies off the gurney is awkward.

Compare that to how many the same number of executioners could kill in the same amount of time using machine guns.

Murdering a lot of people quickly is not really difficult. All you need is a lot of willing killers. Don't even need modern weaponry.

The world's all-time champs are probably the Mongols.

There are accounts of their 100,000 man army capturing a city with 500,000 (temporary) survivors, who are then bound and divided out among the soldiers.

On the command, everybody chops head and a nice pyramid is built.

Probably half a million dead in no more than a few minutes. FAR more efficient than 20th century killing systems.

Nazi and commie regimes probably did not use similar methods for the simple reason that they really did not have that many cheerful killers among their troops.

37 posted on 09/23/2012 4:41:00 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Blogger
that insures no pain

How would he know, I don't think that anyone who has ever been guillotined has been asked if it hurt or not......Personally, I'd rather have the lethal injection. I think they put you to sleep first then give you something to stop your heart.

40 posted on 09/23/2012 5:04:32 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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