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To: GCC Catholic; Joseph DeMaistre; Frank Sheed

I thought I was the only one who remembered that Missal! Yes, it was basically a (good and real) translation of the Tridentine Rite; furthermore, part of the liturgical movement of the 50s and pre-VatII era was an attempt to get priests to say the Mass audibly and correctly.

I wondered how your Tridentine Rite trip turned out, GCC. I know that your kids are not alone, and many people who would be favorably disposed to the content and the poetry of the Old Mass are totally turned off by the fact that you can't hear it, even in Latin. But there are many Tridentine Rite folks who seem to believe that God made the Mass for us not to hear it...I realize that's a parody of their position, but there is definitely a touch of that attitude.

I would love to see a new "Benedictine" Rite, which would take the Tridentine Rite, make a few tiny tweaks, keep some of it in Latin, put some of it in the vernacular, and make it AUDIBLE.


17 posted on 12/15/2006 4:39:09 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

I recall reading that much of the Mass was sung in the early Middle Ages, including the Canon.

I'm Eastern rite, but I also revere the classical Roman rite due to its affinity with the Eastern rites. I can tell you hearing the mysteries of the faith, contained in the liturgy, sung in English every Sunday is very edifying to me.

Much of the Old rite could be traceable to the time of St. Gregory the Great, such as the Canon and structure of the Mass. The Paul VI ordo calendar suppressed many of the ancient parts of the Roman rite.

I would favor a reform or the reform that goes back to basics and jettison's the damage that Dom Gregory Dix's scholarship had on the Mass.


21 posted on 12/15/2006 6:08:30 PM PST by Joseph DeMaistre (There's no such thing as relativism, only dogmatism of a different color)
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