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To: stfassisi; Frumanchu; Gamecock; blue-duncan; P-Marlowe
God does not predestine to sin

Judas is clearly prophesied according to the Apostle Peter. Peter cites Psalms 69 & 109. Other prophesies speak of the betrayal for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah.)

Judas purpose for being was fixed by God and announced 9 & 5 hundred years ahead of time.... so that Judas had no choice but to betray the Lord.

It appears that God will predestine people to sin.

Jesus addressed the case of Judas and said that Judas was lost so that scripture could be fulfilled.

God can do with any of us as He chooses. Like any shepherd, He can slaughter some sheep and fleece others. It is the choice of the Shepherd, not of the sheep.

231 posted on 12/14/2006 7:39:22 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

""It appears that God will predestine people to sin.""

You are on a slippery slope here ,Dear Brother
Every sinful act is a voluntary.It is an act of will that is NOT in order with the will of God.
Since a sinful act is an act of human will,the basic cause of sin is within man himself.

Be carful what you are alluding to ,NO sin is Not from God.

Perhaps you can explain to us all what sin comes from God?
Think about what you are saying ,Dear Friend.


242 posted on 12/14/2006 8:00:27 AM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: xzins

God cannot predestine people to sin. It is against His nature. He is absolute beauty, truth, holiness, goodness, and the absolute of every virtue. It is totally impossible.

He can use people and what they do to fulfill His purposes. But it is blasphemy to attribute to God the workings of the devil. God does not create us for destruction. "Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye." Ezekiel 18:23, 32


259 posted on 12/14/2006 8:38:44 AM PST by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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