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To: xzins

God cannot predestine people to sin. It is against His nature. He is absolute beauty, truth, holiness, goodness, and the absolute of every virtue. It is totally impossible.

He can use people and what they do to fulfill His purposes. But it is blasphemy to attribute to God the workings of the devil. God does not create us for destruction. "Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye." Ezekiel 18:23, 32


259 posted on 12/14/2006 8:38:44 AM PST by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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To: nanetteclaret; xzins
Regarding predestination, from the Holy See:

599 Jesus' violent death was not the result of chance in an unfortunate coincidence of circumstances, but is part of the mystery of God's plan, as St. Peter explains to the Jews of Jerusalem in his first sermon on Pentecost: "This Jesus (was) delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God."393 This Biblical language does not mean that those who handed him over were merely passive players in a scenario written in advance by God.394

600 To God, all moments of time are present in their immediacy. When therefore he establishes his eternal plan of "predestination", he includes in it each person's free response to his grace: "In this city, in fact, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place."395 For the sake of accomplishing his plan of salvation, God permitted the acts that flowed from their blindness.396 "He died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures"

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1O.HTM

324 posted on 12/14/2006 10:39:39 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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