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To: Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan
True, but as we've seen with our only impeached President, pardons are not always "free." They can be bought

This would imply that God can be 'bought.' If that's how the Protestants understand God's integrity, it would be the ultimate in anthropomorphism.

It's not a gift one gets for a birthday or at graduation. It has no chance of being corrupt by the Giver. It is priceless (nothing in the world can buy it, earn it, deserve it). There is no need whatsoever to call it free, or a gift. In fact, it's just plain wrong and misleading.

9,885 posted on 02/09/2007 5:49:59 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; 1000 silverlings

"It is priceless (nothing in the world can buy it, earn it, deserve it)."

What then is this "grace"? Is it the salvation wrought by the finished work of Christ on the cross?


9,888 posted on 02/09/2007 6:12:15 PM PST by blue-duncan
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This would imply that God can be 'bought.' If that's how the Protestants understand God's integrity, it would be the ultimate in anthropomorphism.

Uh, no, just the opposite. We're making the point that because something is free, it cannot be bought.

There is no need whatsoever to call it free, or a gift. In fact, it's just plain wrong and misleading.

God's grace is the predestined mercy He has chosen to bestow upon some men through the sacrifice of His Son. If you think it is wrong to call grace a "gift," then your argument is, again, with Paul.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." -- Ephesians 2:8-9

9,915 posted on 02/09/2007 10:59:03 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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