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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; Blogger; Quix; HarleyD
Sorry, that is the idea of a pope, Leo 13, and is not biblical. It contradicts Hebrews chapter 7, in which we are told that Jesus is our High Priest.

Yet this is the secret revelation that you believe and want us all to believe. This is why you worship Mary, not that she is Christ's mother-- you think she is above God.

9,087 posted on 02/06/2007 11:17:25 AM PST by 1000 silverlings
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To: 1000 silverlings

The Catholics, Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox churches ALL venerate Mary. Nobody WORSHIPS her. It is only angry; mostly illiterate; west europeons who deny Mary the respect the church has showed toward her since 33 AD.


9,091 posted on 02/06/2007 11:32:19 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

you think she is above God.
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Am beginning to think there's a . . . what . . . twilight zone/shadow lands/alternate reality feature to all this . . .

Kind of like the sort of thing that one can see only out of the corner of one's eye . . . but when one looks directly, it disappears . . . but like the Chinese say--the bystander sees the game best.

There's some terribly slippery stuff going on in all this. Very fascinating for a sociologist/shrink.

I wonder if it's somewhat like the guy in his back yard holding the hose with a big spurt of water arching from his hand . . . as he watches the beautiful neighbor in her pool. His wife comes out and asks him what he's doing. Just watering the grass, of course. And he is. Obviously. He thinks so. The neighbor lady thinks so. His wife believes it. And yet . . . romping twixt--maybe in between the neurons . . . is this other script . . .

But how might that apply . . . Why of course, I'm just honoring Mary. And she is worthy honor--after all--she Birthed THE CHRIST. That's inadequate, let's bump it up a bit--she BIRTHED GOD! That's it--She originated God--in a sense--of course, only a sense--we must keep that in mind, of course, except when it slips aside and falls to the gutter . . . we'll keep that in mind, except when we are so caught up enraptured with this graven image of Mary that we no longer bother about keeping it in mind . . .

But of course, we are ONLY honoring Mary. I know that. The priest knows that--ask him. All my fellow RC's know that . . . at least the intellectual ones will say so . . . but twixt the neurons . . . runs this other script that feeds my flesh so well; comforts me so well; is so much more ACCESSIBLE, that's it--I can relate to Mary so much better and so much easier--MOTHER--THE SUPREME EARTH-MOTHER; MOTHER OF HEAVEN; MOTHER OF GOD--what a comfort.

Not so lofty and out of touch as God--except she is rather God like--what a blend--what a comforting blend. Mary, what a comfort. What a welcome ACCESSIBLE FOCUS. Let's let Moses bother with God at the tent of meeting--that's too hard to handle. Let's deal only with Mary. So comforting. So accessible. So reachable. So our sizeable. Except then we need to elevate her to be able to do all our magical requests. That's, it. We'll keep her as our focus but elevate her so she can do us more good. What a plan.


9,135 posted on 02/06/2007 12:54:08 PM PST by Quix (WHEN IT COMES TO UFO'S TRY ABOVETOPSECRET.COM TO LEARN A LITTLE 1ST THEN POST)
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To: 1000 silverlings; annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; Blogger; Quix; HarleyD; Alex Murphy; P-Marlowe; xzins
What I don't understand about this whole Mary thing is this:

How many generations back from Mary do we have to logically carry this whole ancestor of God thing? I mean if Christ was born of a virgin (and of course He was), and said virgin was the mother of God, and as such we should pray to her, what about the grandparents of God? Don't they deserve the same adoration that is given to Mary. After all, they are the parents of the mother of God. Shouldn't we pray to them? What about the great-grandparents of God?

It all sounds very Mormon to me.
9,340 posted on 02/06/2007 10:25:10 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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