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To: wmfights; HarleyD; klossg; Forest Keeper; Blogger; Quix; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
WM:I think you can find saved Christians who have been born again in almost every sect of Christianity. However, any sect that believes you need to do works in order to be saved is wrong.

HD:I would agree with you to a point. I feel doctrine does matter.

WM:I think your right. Scriptural doctrine will lead us into a closer, fuller relationship with our LORD and SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST, but it does not save us. A great example would be Calvinism. Through this spectrum we enter into a fuller understanding of our relationship with God and grow because of it.

Amen.

Nor do those with incorrect doctrine have the full benefit of being in the body of Christ. That is they are constantly buffeted by bad doctrine, always uncertain of their own salvation. As the elect, they will be seen through by the Holy Spirit and enter the Kingdom. But in this life they will have a spiritual life that is to be pitied.

8,175 posted on 01/31/2007 11:52:31 AM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Gamecock; HarleyD; klossg; Forest Keeper; Blogger; Quix; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg
...constantly buffeted by bad doctrine, always uncertain of their own salvation.

Wow, that's it in a nut shell! There is nothing more fulfilling than the blessed assurance that once Jesus has you in his hands nothing can pull you away. Jesus will not lose any the Father has given him!

8,177 posted on 01/31/2007 12:05:54 PM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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always uncertain of their own salvation.

Yes, it always gets back to assurance.

If Christ has paid for our sins, once for all time, by the grace of God, how can we worry?

RESOLUTIONS
by Jonathan Edwards

"BEING SENSIBLE THAT I AM UNABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT GOD'S HELP, I DO HUMBLY ENTREAT HIM BY HIS GRACE TO ENABLE ME TO KEEP THESE RESOLUTIONS, SO FAR AS THEY ARE AGREEABLE TO HIS WILL, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE...

"...53. Resolved, to improve every opportunity, when I am in the best and happiest frame of mind, to cast and venture my soul on the Lord Jesus Christ, to trust and confide in him, and consecrate myself wholly to him; that from this I may have assurance of my safety, knowing that I confide in my Redeemer. July 8, 1723."

(Gasp! It's a list!)

8,179 posted on 01/31/2007 12:22:27 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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