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To: annalex; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Quester; Dr. Eckleburg
The scripture does not teach presumption. It teaches against it, see the parable of a publican and a pharisee praying

Not only does it teach against presumption, but its says "For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

8,024 posted on 01/29/2007 4:12:49 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; Quester; HarleyD; Blogger
Not only does it teach against presumption, but its says "For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

There is so much assurance in Scripture a person would have to be blind to miss it.

And that is because our assurance is built on His strength, His righteousness, His sacrifice, and not our own.

"And he (the Lord) said unto me, 'My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness.' Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong." -- 2 Corinthians 12:9-10


8,034 posted on 01/29/2007 5:10:54 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: kosta50; annalex; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg
The scripture does not teach presumption. It teaches against it, see the parable of a publican and a pharisee praying.

Not only does it teach against presumption, but its says "For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."


The scriptures teach faith.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works,
which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
And that faith is based upon Whom ... yourself ... or God ?

(Also note that 'works' follow 'faith', and not the other way around.)

Has God begun a great work in you ?

Do you have faith that He will complete what He has begun ?
Philippians 1:3 I thank my God upon every remembrance of you,

4 Always in every prayer of mine for you all making request with joy,

5 For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now;

6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Is the above presumptuous to you ?

8,093 posted on 01/30/2007 8:54:30 AM PST by Quester
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