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PING to the below:

But the poster implied that the sonship of God somehow negates the Apostolic Church.

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I did? Hmmmmm . . . ponder, ponder . . .

In many senses, I suppose it is conceivable to pretend that's true--IF--one ASSUMES, INFERS, EXTRAPOLATES, PRETENDS

That the Roman bureaucracy = the Apostolic Church.

But I don't consider the Roman bureaucratic edifice the Apostolic church by a million miles. I doubt it was EVER very close to being so, even.

Now, there may be isolated congregations here and there even today which would qualify by virtue of Holy Spirit leading them in more or less a full I Cor 12-14 Apostolic form of congregational life.

Otherwise, I don't see how the Roman edifice comes remotely close. Not that a lot of Protestant ones do either, BTW.

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Yeah, there is the thing that ABBA, DADDY

means Christ died that we can go direct to DADDY.

And that NOT DOING SO

IS AN INSULT TO HIM; TO HIS BLOOD; TO HIS LIFE, DEATH AND RESURRECTION.

To avoid doing so at the behest of and in the name of

ANY HUMAN ORGANIZATION AND LIST OF TRADITIONS OF MEN

IS AN INSULT AND AN INDICTMENT to that organization.

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Christ died that we can go direct to DADDY

We can pray to the Father, yes. But Christ said many other things we need to do before we end up with Him. Baptism, Eucharist, works of charity are necessary as well, according to the scripture the Church gave us.