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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl; .30Carbine; Marysecretary; DarthVader; hosepipe; P-Marlowe; MamaDearest
Christ died that we can go direct to DADDY

We can pray to the Father, yes. But Christ said many other things we need to do before we end up with Him. Baptism, Eucharist, works of charity are necessary as well, according to the scripture the Church gave us.

6,625 posted on 01/17/2007 1:56:41 PM PST by annalex
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Sounds like those insisting

And don't forget circumcision!!!

Mutilation of the faith and the faithful, indeed.


6,627 posted on 01/17/2007 1:58:45 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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But Christ said many other things we need to do before we end up with Him...

Salvation by works.

Period.

Don't even try to deny it.

6,655 posted on 01/17/2007 4:06:27 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: annalex; Quix; .30Carbine; Marysecretary; hosepipe; P-Marlowe
We can pray to the Father, yes. But Christ said many other things we need to do before we end up with Him. Baptism, Eucharist, works of charity are necessary as well, according to the scripture the Church gave us.

The thief on the cross was with Christ in paradise that very day. And we have discussed the likes of Abraham, Moses, David – aborted fetuses, those who could not or did not hear the Gospel.

I assert that we ought not to judge what is required of someone else based on what is required of us individually in our walk with the Lord.

God deals in justice, not equity.

For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man [that is] an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, [that] shall ye receive. So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them [their] hire, beginning from the last unto the first. And when they came that [were hired] about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.

And when they had received [it], they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought [but] one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take [that] thine [is], and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. – Matt 20:1-16

Equity is man's idea of justice, not God's. To say that all men are held to the same standard is to anthropomorphize God.

For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. - Romans 9:15


6,677 posted on 01/17/2007 9:21:36 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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