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To: kawaii
The word saint in the new testament original language(not Latin) merely means "holy one" or "the holy ones".. Holy in the Hebrew sense of the word.. The Greeks had no corresponding word for holy in the Hebrew sense/language, one had to be invented..
What makes them holy?.. i.e. saints..
The Blood of Jesus.. Not a declaration by some other human..

NOTE: In new testament times they did not call each other christians but "holy ones"/"saints".. Non believers called them christians.. they called each other holy ones/saints..

6,205 posted on 01/15/2007 11:36:54 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Interesting.

Didn't know that.

Thanks for helping me learn something.


6,218 posted on 01/16/2007 6:15:46 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: hosepipe

Can you cite any sources for this? After all the Greek bishops which came together in the 7 councils were pretty good speakers of Greek. I think they'd know what words meant.


6,220 posted on 01/16/2007 6:51:25 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: hosepipe
What makes them holy?.. i.e. saints.. The Blood of Jesus.. Not a declaration by some other human..

Just to be clear, the Catholic Church doesn't think that a "declaration by some human" makes people into saints.

6,233 posted on 01/16/2007 8:54:20 AM PST by Mad Dawg ('Shut up,' he explained.)
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To: hosepipe; kawaii
The word saint in the new testament original language(not Latin) merely means "holy one" or "the holy ones".. Holy in the Hebrew sense of the word.. The Greeks had no corresponding word for holy in the Hebrew sense/language, one had to be invented...

The Gospels were written in Greek, not Hebrew. The word use is "hagios (hagios), or most holy thing. Calling believers saints is +Pauline innovation, which appears in Act 9:32 for the first time applied to believers.

In new testament times they did not call each other Christians but "holy ones"/"saints".. Non believers called them Christians.. they called each other holy ones/saints..

Nonsense! Christians called themselves Christians in Antioch, one of the most ancient Churches not long after Christ was crucified. Calling believers 'saints' is +Paulian Christianity.

Note: the most prolific Christian writers, +Paul and +Luke, never knew the Lord personally. That should be a red flag right there.

6,295 posted on 01/16/2007 1:18:16 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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