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Can you cite any sources for this? After all the Greek bishops which came together in the 7 councils were pretty good speakers of Greek. I think they'd know what words meant.

Can you cite any sources for this? After all the Greek bishops which came together in the 7 councils were pretty good speakers of Greek. I think they'd know what words meant.

If I may, the Greek root which is interpreted to mean “saint” in English is hagios. The term means devoted to God, holy or sanctified, and is used in the New Testament in reference to God Himself, believers, angels, the temple, holy mountain, prophets etc.

The Hebrew root which is interpreted saint, also meaning holy or sanctified, is chaciyd.

Further meanings attached to the word “saint” originate from the doctrines and traditions of mortal men: Etymology of Saint

Personally and for cause, I eschew all the doctrines and traditions of mortal men:

Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men. – Mark 7:7

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. – Deu 4:2

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: - Rev 22:18

No matter how one understands Peter’s blessing in Matt 16:19, we ought remember that Jesus’ parting commandment to Peter was to feed His sheep. Taking the food out of their mouths would therefore be quite wrongful:

So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. He saith to him again the second time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. He saith unto him the third time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. – John 21:15-17

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. – Matt 4:4

As I have said before on this thread, it is a perilous thing for anyone to stand willfully between Christ and His sheep.

Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.

I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. – John 10:7-18

As Christ said to Peter: if you love me, feed my sheep.

Saying it three, count 'em, three times puts the commandment in "flashing neon" importance.

So I ignore the doctrines and traditions of mortal men and feed on every word that proceeds from the mouth of God - including the Living Word of God, Jesus Christ Himself. (John 1, Rev 19, John 6)

[ Can you cite any sources for this? ]

Should be easy to google info on this..
Most all greek scholars know this.. at least the older ones..
Maybe older non Roman Catholic ones..
I use Kenneth Wuest's "Golden Nuggets" from the Greek as a source..
Might hard to find that volume these days though..
Very special insights on many greek words.. christian wise..

Actually the Greeks had no word for "Christ/Messiah" in the Hebrew sense either.. one had to be invented.. Interesting display on how that word happened also.. Ancient Greek was and is a very rich language (in meanings) but certain concepts were foreign to the Greeks.. and actually everybody else but the Jews.. No doubt translating to other languages (of the time) had the same problem.. But I learned of this "problem" from Kenneth Wuest..