[wmfights]

"...she is the model for these who hear and keep the Word."
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I can't imagine anyone would argue that she was not a good faithful servant. It is all the add ons that cloud the issue. I know you say veneration, but from an outsiders perspective it looks like worship.

[Antoninus]

I can't imagine anyone would argue that she was not a good faithful servant. It is all the add ons that cloud the issue. I know you say veneration, but from an outsiders perspective it looks like worship.

And we keep telling you that it's not. Why can't you simply accept this as an honest answer? Those who try to tack the "Mary as Goddess" thing onto Catholics do so for purely dishonest polemical reasons--not because the criticism has any basis in fact. I hope you are not one of those people.

[adiaireton8]

know you say veneration, but from an outsiders perspective it looks like worship.

In the early Church, from an outsider's perspective it looked like Christians, in their Eucharist, were engaged in cannibalism.

So therefore, no one should take the Eucharist, or teach that we should take the Eucharist. Whenever outsiders misperceive what we are saying/doing, we must eliminate that doctrine/practice.

-A8

[annalex]

from an outsiders perspective it looks like worship.

I know. We should teach the outsiders. When I do, I am reminded that all we need a hug (428). Hug.