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To: adiaireton8
Your assumption that couples must engage in sexual relations with one another is the false assumption. Paul even points this out in 1 Cor 7:5, where his qualification concerning married couples abstaining "for a time" is still "by way of concession, not of command". The 'duty' of engaging in sexual relations with one's spouse depends upon the state of the spouse. If a husband and a wife both desire to consecrate themselves to the Lord and give up sexual relations, then they have no overriding duty to engage in sexual relations with each other. And thus Mary and Joseph did not sin by never having sexual relations.

Nailed it!
216 posted on 12/05/2006 2:16:53 PM PST by Antoninus (When your party's platform is "Vote for US because THEY will be worse," prepare to lose.)
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To: Antoninus; TomSmedley; P-Marlowe

Your point is valid concerning married couples. It is not valid concerning Mary and Joseph, however.

In Scripture, it is often the seemingly insignificant word that has the most meaning. And at the end of Matthew there is a little greek word "eos" which is translated "until." In this particular case, it is eos ou, which according to the Greek Lexicon, when it is with the neutral relative pronoun ou or otou, it gets the force of a conjunction, until, till (the time when);...http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/words.pl?book=Mat&chapter=1&verse=25&strongs=2193&page=1&flag_full=1

Thus, when one looks at the actual greek, there is not a question that Joseph knew Mary. Rather, the Bible states that he witheld from marital relations with her UNTIL (or up to the time when) Jesus was born. Mat 1:25

Incidentally, it also refers to Jesus as Mary's firstborn (prototokon) son. The implication is that there was also a second born. Since Jesus's brother's and sisters are mentioned in Scripture as well, it is within reason to take this to mean that at least some of these were Mary's biological children (when one accompanies it with Jesus being her firstborn).


1,361 posted on 12/13/2006 8:00:21 PM PST by Blogger
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