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To: wagglebee

I've noticed no one has answered your #1885. I wonder why.... ;-)


2,055 posted on 12/18/2006 7:48:11 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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To: Pyro7480; wagglebee

Very well.

#1 Catholics do not have a monopoly on Mary and while they may complain, they have no right to demand of Protestants that Mary be portrayed in all movies in the Catholic way. If she was portrayed in a biblical way, they shouldn't take issue.
#2 Catholicism presents a faith plus works gospel. As such, it has a false gospel. We do not have these conversations because of any insecurity on our part, but because we care enough to try to steer you away from serious error.

#3 Mary was the Mother of Jesus and a blessed woman. She was not deity. She wasn't close to deity. She wasn't above other humans. She was blessed. In Catholicism, Mary is elevated to Christ-like status. She is the mediator. Co-redeemer. Advocate. These teachings are heresy no matter how they are framed.

There is ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN and that is Jesus.
We have one advocate before the Father- Jesus.
Christ alone is our redeemer.

Do not ascribe to human beings Titles which belong to Christ alone. Even humans who happen to have been His earthly mother.

As to making a movie about Jewish beliefs- uh- NEWSFLASH-- this movie wasn't about Jewish beliefs nor the Catholic Church. It wasn't about the Greek Orthodox Church. It was about the INCARNATION OF JESUS CHRIST AS TOLD IN SCRIPTURE. It may have some non-biblical parts in it. I don't condone those. But whereas it reflects Scripture's portrayal of all characters involved - all true Christians should embrace it.


2,059 posted on 12/18/2006 8:12:52 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Pyro7480; wagglebee

"Our Lady’s physical virginity, with all that it implies, remained integral and intact before, during and after the birth of Jesus. St. Bernard, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Bonaventure and the Catechism of the Council of Trent all teach the painlessness of the birth as a logical consequence of its miraculous nature."

Perhaps because the above quote from the article is wrong and contrary to the scriptures Gen. 3:16, "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." and Rev. 12:1-2, "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

The movie was accurate concerning the pain and travail in labor that Mary suffered. To portray it any differently to appease Roman Catholics would not do justice to the scriptures just as having Jews violate the dietry laws would not do justice to the scriptures.


2,066 posted on 12/18/2006 8:40:02 PM PST by blue-duncan
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