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To: Forest Keeper
How could it diminish Mary's legacy if not only was she the mother of Christ (with two natures), but also the mother of such great spiritual men as James and Jude?

Scripture, please. There is no reason to believe that Mary gave birth to James or Jude. Read the letter of Jude. Don't you think it is strange that Jude calls James his brother but NOT Jesus? IF Jesus was Jude's brother through Mary, Jude would CERTAINLY call himself Jesus' brother, not James. Again, further proof of cousin.

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1,900 posted on 12/18/2006 11:02:30 AM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus

James is called the Lord's Brother. Jude is James' brother.

It is not strange at all. It follows the pattern of humility that James took. James is called the Lord's brother, but doesn't call himself the Lord's Brother. Look at the introductions to the two books. Same pattern with Jude.

James 1:1
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings.

Jude 1:1
Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved by God the Father and kept by Jesus Christ:


1,902 posted on 12/18/2006 11:08:16 AM PST by Blogger
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To: jo kus

Moreover, James declares himself a "slave" of Jesus Christ, but makes no mention of being His brother or about being a son of the Blessed Mother. Jude also says he is a slave and the brother of James.

The Lord NEVER violated Judaic law. On the Cross, He entrusted His Mother to John, had there been brothers this would have violated the law.


1,909 posted on 12/18/2006 11:23:54 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: jo kus; Forest Keeper

" IF Jesus was Jude's brother through Mary, Jude would CERTAINLY call himself Jesus' brother, not James"

Incredible, Paul calls James, Jesus' brother, but that's not good enough since he's referred to as Jesus' brother and not referred to as "Mary's son" but now Jude can't be Jesus' brother since he is referred to as James' brother, not and not referred to as Jesus' brother.


1,923 posted on 12/18/2006 12:32:28 PM PST by blue-duncan
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