Hi Jo kus, FK
We are told to test the truth - when speaking of traveling teachers where we DON'T know who appointed them.
The scriptures don’t make that qualification.
But where is the Scriptural verses that tell us that duly appointed apostles are to be second-guessed.
How do we know who is duly appointed ?
We know only that the Apostles were duly appointed of Christ.
Beyond that, God leads us to only trust the spiritual to understand (and, therefore, to interpret) spiritual things ... and to note the fruits of those who would claim to be our teachers.1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
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Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
You wrote : The scriptures don’t make that qualification.
??? Sure it does! Quite often. What's wrong with the verse you used?
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Actually, the later writings of the NT also have such qualifications. John, Jude, Peter, Colossians and the Pastorals all speak of false teachers. Even Thessalonians and Corinthians and Galatians speak of such men. We test the veracity of their claim by the Gospel once given. That is how we know a false teacher - one who brings a different gospel, as Paul says in Gal 1:10.
What the early community was expected to do was to RETAIN what was once given by Paul and the other Apostles and use that as a reference to guard against traveling teachers who might distort the good News. When their teachings differed from the Apostles, when their fruit was noted, the community knew they were being given a false gospel. Again, look at Gal 1:10. Paul claims that the Gospel HE gave is from God. He doesn't say "whatever you guys come up with when you read the Scriptures". He says the "traditions once given". That does not bode well for trying to figure out God's teachings alone with your bible in your lap "guided by the 'spirit'".
We know who was duly appointed by the Apostles because the Scriptures themselves say that these apostles appointed successors, such as Timothy and Titus. Elders were left in the each community. We have no indication that Christian communities were left WITHOUT a successor or leader appointed by men sent by the Apostles or the Apostles themselves. It is pure fantasy to think that the individual was left without a guide in his community and that Sola Scriptura existed anywhere in Christianity during this time.
Later Christian writers verify this, such as Irenaeus, who says that WE KNOW which is the correct Gospel (contra Gnostics) BECAUSE of the duly appointed successors of the Apostles. He even goes on to state the successors of the Bishop of Rome, using this as proof vs. the Gnostic's who could not show such a trace of succession back to the Apostles.
Regards
You wrote : The scriptures don’t make that qualification.
??? Sure it does! Quite often. What's wrong with the verse you used?
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Actually, the later writings of the NT also have such qualifications. John, Jude, Peter, Colossians and the Pastorals all speak of false teachers. Even Thessalonians and Corinthians and Galatians speak of such men. We test the veracity of their claim by the Gospel once given. That is how we know a false teacher - one who brings a different gospel, as Paul says in Gal 1:10.
What the early community was expected to do was to RETAIN what was once given by Paul and the other Apostles and use that as a reference to guard against traveling teachers who might distort the good News. When their teachings differed from the Apostles, when their fruit was noted, the community knew they were being given a false gospel. Again, look at Gal 1:10. Paul claims that the Gospel HE gave is from God. He doesn't say "whatever you guys come up with when you read the Scriptures". He says the "traditions once given". That does not bode well for trying to figure out God's teachings alone with your bible in your lap "guided by the 'spirit'".
We know who was duly appointed by the Apostles because the Scriptures themselves say that these apostles appointed successors, such as Timothy and Titus. Elders were left in the each community. We have no indication that Christian communities were left WITHOUT a successor or leader appointed by men sent by the Apostles or the Apostles themselves. It is pure fantasy to think that the individual was left without a guide in his community and that Sola Scriptura existed anywhere in Christianity during this time.
Later Christian writers verify this, such as Irenaeus, who says that WE KNOW which is the correct Gospel (contra Gnostics) BECAUSE of the duly appointed successors of the Apostles. He even goes on to state the successors of the Bishop of Rome, using this as proof vs. the Gnostic's who could not show such a trace of succession back to the Apostles.
Regards