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To: Forest Keeper

I can’t buy . . . especially without any qualification . . .

that Paul knew what he was doing was wrong. Don’t buy it at all.

Paul took pride in keeping the whole of the law as few others managed to do as well at.

It was his ZEAL FOR GOD AND GOD’S LAW that compelled him to trash, thrash and destroy Christians.


15,310 posted on 05/27/2007 4:01:02 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
This is actually a great question IMHO and one I've thought about for years. I dare say we all know people who have built up what, upon reflection, is almost a pathological disgust at theism and especially at Christianity. And then one day they "flip", and are saved.

The Paul of my imagining was a super scrupulous Pharisee, applying the beautiful Torah to everything, and just horrified at these blaspheming Xtians because he loved God -- the God of Moses, of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- so much. And one day he is travelling on the dusty road to Damascus, and his mind takes an unexpected turn, and then, as we say theologically, he is knocked off his ass, uh, donkey, as he is suddenly infused with knowledge about how this scummy, criminal, Galilean Yeshua is the fulfillment of the Torah he loves so much.

Yeah, that was the moment, if you like, of his saving. But God had been setting him up all along. That's my take on it. Before he was conceived, God had a plan for him.

15,312 posted on 05/27/2007 4:29:22 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.)
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To: Quix; Mad Dawg
I can’t buy . . . especially without any qualification . . . that Paul knew what he was doing was wrong. Don’t buy it at all. Paul took pride in keeping the whole of the law as few others managed to do as well at. It was his ZEAL FOR GOD AND GOD’S LAW that compelled him to trash, thrash and destroy Christians.

Yes, I have no doubt that SAUL thought he was doing the Lord's work. But, he was LOST at that time, unsaved, damned. My main point was that Saul was wrong. He "should have known" that murdering was wrong, but he didn't see it that way until our Lord Jesus opened his eyes. (So to speak :) So, I said "he knew" when I should have said "he should have known". :) IOW, not only was he wrong about Christianity, but he was also wrong about what he thought was Judaism.

15,461 posted on 06/01/2007 3:01:11 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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