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To: fortheDeclaration
you just run to the same scriptures and ignore context and other scriptures. You do what any Cult member would do to defend their position.

Yes, exactly what you do with James 2...

Note, however, that I don't belittle you with the label "Cult". This tells everyone out there WHO has some love in their heart and who is intent on dissolving the Body of Christ. As my tagline states, I am not obliged to continue listening to your debasing attacks - yet I have without responding in kind. THAT'S a sign of humility. Your arrogant attacks that fail to see the hypocrisy of them are not.

Until you figure out that you personally do not hold the key to the Scriptures, whatever attack you make against Catholics for improper interpretation can be laid at your feet in spades. Look to the Scriptures. They tell us to defend the reason for our hope IN MEEKNESS - IN HUMILITY. Until you learn humility, your interpretations of Scriptures have no authority.

Regards

14,428 posted on 05/10/2007 7:38:17 AM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus
you just run to the same scriptures and ignore context and other scriptures. You do what any Cult member would do to defend their position.

Yes, exactly what you do with James 2...

No, because I gave you other scriptures that explain my position, scriptures that you cannot deal with and thus ignore.

I have proven, by comparing scripture with scripture, that James 2 is not speaking of works being needed for eternal life.

What James is referring to in James 2 is the growth of the believer, not his salvation.

If a believer does not grow, the Lord removes him from this life (Jn.15:2, 1Jn.5:16 cf Acts 5:5)

Note, however, that I don't belittle you with the label "Cult". This tells everyone out there WHO has some love in their heart and who is intent on dissolving the Body of Christ. As my tagline states, I am not obliged to continue listening to your debasing attacks - yet I have without responding in kind. THAT'S a sign of humility. Your arrogant attacks that fail to see the hypocrisy of them are not.

I told you had a cultic method of interpretation of scripture, which you do.

Any cult that wants to 'prove' a heresy, sticks to a few picked scriptures and ignores those that prove him wrong.

That is exactly what you and your RC friends are doing with James 2.

Paul states very clearly that works have nothing to do with one's salvation and James does not contradict that fact.

Works have nothing to do with getting saved or staying saved.

They have everything to do with showing one is saved.

Until you figure out that you personally do not hold the key to the Scriptures, whatever attack you make against Catholics for improper interpretation can be laid at your feet in spades. Look to the Scriptures. They tell us to defend the reason for our hope IN MEEKNESS - IN HUMILITY. Until you learn humility, your interpretations of Scriptures have no authority.

I gave you the facts and did not attack you personally.

I pointed out the error of your method of interpretation.

Unable to deal with the truth, you harden yourself to it.

The Lake of Fire is going to be full of people repeating over and over again, 'faith without works is dead', people who thought they could do something to earn salvation

Regards

Likewise.

14,462 posted on 05/11/2007 4:37:50 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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