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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg
Dr. E.: "Our presuppositions must always be that the truth is knowable, insofar as God reveals it to us in Scripture."

Kosta: "The Jews, and Muslims, and Hindus say the same thing, yet they all 'know' a different 'truth' in their scriptures."

Kosta, I hope you do realize that the Orthodox Church is in the same pot with the Jews, Muslims, and Hindus, as far as YOUR point goes. You can't tell me that the truth is unknowable, yet your Church has all of the "important" answers. You also "know" a different "truth". How shall we judge? Mormonism is younger than FORMAL Reformed theology, which is younger than Islam, which is younger than Orthodoxy, which is younger than Hinduism. Does this help us to know which truth is correct?

How about numbers? It has been argued to me before that since a whole "church" believes something, that it must be true, as opposed to the Spirit leading others identically to different beliefs than your Church's. Well, you outnumber the Jews and the Mormons, but after that you can't come close to the number of believers in the other categories. So, that can't be right either. "Consensus theory" doesn't work here at all.

It's really a matter of faith, and who and what we pick to be our respective authorities, isn't it? I am only writing this because you keep bringing in all these other religions and I don't see what that has to do with anything in this discussion.

13,804 posted on 05/02/2007 1:57:47 AM PDT by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg
Kosta to Dr. E: "The Jews, and Muslims, and Hindus say the same thing, yet they all 'know' a different 'truth' in their scriptures"

FK yto Kosta: Kosta, I hope you do realize that the Orthodox Church is in the same pot with the Jews, Muslims, and Hindus, as far as YOUR point goes. You can't tell me that the truth is unknowable, yet your Church has all of the "important" answers

And I say to you that we all can't claim the Truth and not recognize it as one and the same. In other words, as far as we are concerned, someone's truth is not the truth but ours is (regardless of the reasons)! We believe that our version is the true one, but we don't know it. Faith is hope, not fact.

It's like that show where all contestents say "I am such and such," and the MC says "will the real such and such ...please stand up" and they all stand up! We immediately know that not all can be the one and the same, but we don't really know who is or isn't, yet we believe that one of them is.

13,809 posted on 05/02/2007 7:22:41 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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