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To: Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg
Kosta to Dr. E: "The Jews, and Muslims, and Hindus say the same thing, yet they all 'know' a different 'truth' in their scriptures"

FK yto Kosta: Kosta, I hope you do realize that the Orthodox Church is in the same pot with the Jews, Muslims, and Hindus, as far as YOUR point goes. You can't tell me that the truth is unknowable, yet your Church has all of the "important" answers

And I say to you that we all can't claim the Truth and not recognize it as one and the same. In other words, as far as we are concerned, someone's truth is not the truth but ours is (regardless of the reasons)! We believe that our version is the true one, but we don't know it. Faith is hope, not fact.

It's like that show where all contestents say "I am such and such," and the MC says "will the real such and such ...please stand up" and they all stand up! We immediately know that not all can be the one and the same, but we don't really know who is or isn't, yet we believe that one of them is.

13,809 posted on 05/02/2007 7:22:41 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg
And I say to you that we all can't claim the Truth and not recognize it as one and the same. In other words, as far as we are concerned, someone's truth is not the truth but ours is (regardless of the reasons)! We believe that our version is the true one, but we don't know it. Faith is hope, not fact.

It's a continuum. There are some things that all Christians believe and must claim as fact in order to be Christians. These are nonnegotiable. However, there are many others that Christians of good conscience may disagree on, as we see all the time here. So, I still think the core of Christian faith is fact-based and not blind.

I was laughing with my wife last night as I had to admit that Sharpton may have actually said something of merit with his Romney crack. :) I'm not positive, but I think you would agree that Mormonism is not a Christian faith, it is some other faith. They do not hold to the core Christian beliefs that we do, even though you and I disagree on so many other things. I don't hope or "wish" that those core beliefs are true, I consider them as facts.

14,448 posted on 05/10/2007 2:38:48 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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