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To: kosta50; xzins; wagglebee
That quote [by Ignatius] doesn't explain why was Mary's pregnancy supernatural and her labor wasn't.

Mary's pregnancy was not supernatural, the conception of Jesus was. St. Ignatius' quote confirms that both the pregnancy and delivery were natural or normal. :

[Ignatius:] "... He was carried in the womb, even as we are, for the usual period of time; and was really born, as we also are ..."

It's no problem if you want to disagree with what he said, but the fact remains that he said it. :)

1,352 posted on 12/13/2006 6:55:59 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper

"It's no problem if you want to disagree with what he said, but the fact remains that he said it. :)"

I'm glad to see you've been keeping up with your C.O.E. reading list! :)


1,354 posted on 12/13/2006 7:15:20 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Forest Keeper; xzins; wagglebee
Mary's pregnancy was not supernatural, the conception of Jesus was

So, at which point did the supernatural conception become a "natural" pregnancy and progressed to a "natural" delivery?

It's no problem if you want to disagree with what he said, but the fact remains that he said it. :)

+Ignatius was struggling with cults that denied Christ's humanity and he was doing his best to convince them of that.

This was extrtaiblical stuff. +Ignatius was not there when it happened, so he was giving them his version of it with a clear goal, purpose, interest and desire of convincing them that Christ was not only true God but true man as well.

The recond shows that it is not just I who disagrees with him as much as I understand his motivation, but the entire Church since then.

1,359 posted on 12/13/2006 7:53:04 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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