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To: kosta50
ME: Our presuppositions must always be that the truth is knowable, insofar as God reveals it to us in Scripture

YOU: The Jews, and Muslims, and Hindus say the same thing, yet they all 'know' a different 'truth' in their scriptures.

That doesn't prove anything. The point is there is truth and our job is to discern it. The Jews, the Muslims and the Hindus have not found it, regardless of what they think. My faith tells me I have found the truth and it is in Christ risen. The clarity of that fact in Scripture and the peace and assurance it provides to my life lend it even more credibility.

The fruits are good.

OTOH, the Orthodox always seem to hedge their bets and say "we really don't know."

I don't think Paul was obtuse or coy. He knew the reason for his faith, absolutely.

13,510 posted on 04/24/2007 11:03:53 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The Jews, the Muslims and the Hindus have not found it, regardless of what they think

That's what they say about everyone else.

My faith tells me I have found the truth and it is in Christ risen.

They say "My faith tells me I have found the truth and it is _________ God."

You have also found your truth in your brand of Christianity.

OTOH, the Orthodox always seem to hedge their bets and say "we really don't know."

Which is true. :)

13,512 posted on 04/24/2007 11:14:37 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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Dr. E.: "Our presuppositions must always be that the truth is knowable, insofar as God reveals it to us in Scripture."

Kosta: "The Jews, and Muslims, and Hindus say the same thing, yet they all 'know' a different 'truth' in their scriptures."

Kosta, I hope you do realize that the Orthodox Church is in the same pot with the Jews, Muslims, and Hindus, as far as YOUR point goes. You can't tell me that the truth is unknowable, yet your Church has all of the "important" answers. You also "know" a different "truth". How shall we judge? Mormonism is younger than FORMAL Reformed theology, which is younger than Islam, which is younger than Orthodoxy, which is younger than Hinduism. Does this help us to know which truth is correct?

How about numbers? It has been argued to me before that since a whole "church" believes something, that it must be true, as opposed to the Spirit leading others identically to different beliefs than your Church's. Well, you outnumber the Jews and the Mormons, but after that you can't come close to the number of believers in the other categories. So, that can't be right either. "Consensus theory" doesn't work here at all.

It's really a matter of faith, and who and what we pick to be our respective authorities, isn't it? I am only writing this because you keep bringing in all these other religions and I don't see what that has to do with anything in this discussion.

13,804 posted on 05/02/2007 1:57:47 AM PDT by Forest Keeper
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