To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; hosepipe; Kolokotronis
Well, is it rational or not? Even the Christians need a “sign.” They claim the presence of the Holy Spirit. The modern-day version of Gnosticism “I know, and you don’t.”
13,477 posted on
04/24/2007 1:20:44 PM PDT by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: kosta50
[ Even the Christians need a “sign.” They claim the presence of the Holy Spirit. ]
Not all christians are christians..
You can put puppies in a muffin tin but that don't make them muffins..
13,483 posted on
04/24/2007 1:42:38 PM PDT by
hosepipe
(CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; hosepipe; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD; wmfights; Forest Keeper; ...
The modern-day version of Gnosticism "I know, and you don't." The point is not that no one knows or that no one can know, or even that some are wrong. The point is what do they know? Our presuppositions must always be that the truth is knowable, insofar as God reveals it to us in Scripture.
Did Paul think he "knew" correctly?
"For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day." -- 2 Timothy 1:12
And was he correct?
13,487 posted on
04/24/2007 2:09:19 PM PDT by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: kosta50; betty boop; hosepipe; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg
Well, is it rational or not? Even the Christians need a “sign.” They claim the presence of the Holy Spirit. The modern-day version of Gnosticism “I know, and you don’t.”
The Holy Spirit is not a "sign" - He is a Person, He is God. The Jews wanted miracles, the Greeks wanted logic. The subtext is condescension.
Christians, on the other hand, spiritually know God and are known of God.
There is no substitute.
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