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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; hosepipe; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD; wmfights; Forest Keeper; ...
The modern-day version of Gnosticism "I know, and you don't."

The point is not that no one knows or that no one can know, or even that some are wrong. The point is what do they know? Our presuppositions must always be that the truth is knowable, insofar as God reveals it to us in Scripture.

Did Paul think he "knew" correctly?

"For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day." -- 2 Timothy 1:12

And was he correct?

13,487 posted on 04/24/2007 2:09:19 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; hosepipe; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD; wmfights; ...
Our presuppositions must always be that the truth is knowable, insofar as God reveals it to us in Scripture

The Jews, and Muslims, and Hindus say the same thing, yet they all 'know' a different 'truth' in their scriputres.

And was he correct?

Yes, even though I don't think his teachin was always.

All we can say is "Thank you" and "Thy will be done."

13,503 posted on 04/24/2007 9:12:23 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; betty boop; kosta50; Quix; hosepipe
Yet another excellent choice of Scripture! Thank you!

A subtle point of "for I know whom I have believed" is that he is speaking of the Person Himself, not merely what has been said about the Person or what he has observed of the Person. Paul knows Him.

13,541 posted on 04/25/2007 9:32:28 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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