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Tell me why you say this when it isn't true.

Let's examine this.

We talk about what's in our hearts. They say that they know better than we what's in our hearts.
We put up references to the official teaching of our church and to the distinction between latria and dulia. They mock them and return to saying that, whatever account WE give of ourselves, they know better what we are doing than they do.
Then, they make assertions about matters of fact which are easily shown to be false. When this is pointed out, they mock or attack the credibility of those pointing it out.
Instead of reasonable argument, they repeat themselves over and over again, using Scripture like charms or incantations.
When invited to work together and to reason together, they accuse us of "parsing".
and so forth....

I think the answer to the question of why they say things which they know not to be true is easily seen. If I say it, I'll be told I'm being personal. But this is not rocket science.

And in the meantime we should do a little sandal shaking toward the most egregious of those who hold the truth in contempt and have managed to persuade themselves that they way to show loving concern is to belittle, mock, and deride, and be glad to find real brothers and sisters, not all of whom are RC or EO, in these and similar threads.

Since you're referencing a post made to me I believe I can respond to your accusations...

we should do a little sandal shaking toward the most egregious of those who hold the truth in contempt and have managed to persuade themselves that they way to show loving concern is to belittle, mock, and deride, and be glad to find real brothers and sisters

No Protestant on this thread "holds the truth in contempt."

No Protestant on this thread is belittling, mocking or deriding another FReeper (although it could appear that your post here does the very thing you decry.)

And there is a world of difference between criticizing a poster and criticizing an aberrant theology.

God willing, Protestants will continue to preach the truth of the Gospel and the clarity of Scripture and the accomplished salvation by Christ risen, regardless of personal slights and impious criticisms thrown their way.

We talk about what's in our hearts. They say that they know better than we what's in our hearts.

Wellll, dear Bro, Scripture seems to disagree with you: "THE HEART IS DECEITFULLY WICKED. WHO CAN KNOW IT?"

Out of the abundance of the heart . . . the mouth speaks and the body acts [Qx elaboration, of course].

And, if I have to bet my life on evidence, I'll go with the ACTIONS vs the words, VIRTUALLY EVERY TIME.

If it walks like a Genuflect; lays eggs like a Genuflect; Quacks like a Genuflect; flies like a Genuflect; provides pillow stuffing like a Genuflect; waddles like a Genuflect; swims like a Genuflect; is about the same size as a Genuflect; . . . then just perhaps, it really is a DUCK!

And, the Chinese really do have a point--that the onlookers see the game best.

[at the college but playing hooking from pottery because I don't feel like getting all mucked up. Did patch one of my odd pregnant pots, though.]

You make it sound, Dawg, like you've never met anyone in a situation where you knew their heart better than they did.

You make it sound like none of the RC'S, ORTHIES HAVE BLIND SPOTS! LOL! ROTFLOL! GTTM!

Sigh.

THESE ARE THINGS WHICH YOU ARE ASSERTING THAT THE RC AND ORTHY APOLOGISTS ROUTINELY DO, RIGHT? If so, I'd have to agree:

We put up references to the official teaching of our church and to the distinction between latria and dulia. They mock them and return to saying that, whatever account WE give of ourselves, they know better what we are doing than they do.
Then, they make assertions about matters of fact which are easily shown to be false. When this is pointed out, they mock or attack the credibility of those pointing it out.
Instead of reasonable argument, they repeat themselves over and over again, using Scripture like charms or incantations.
When invited to work together and to reason together, they accuse us of "parsing".
and so forth....