THESE ARE THINGS WHICH YOU ARE ASSERTING THAT THE RC AND ORTHY APOLOGISTS ROUTINELY DO, RIGHT? If so, I'd have to agree:
We put up references to the official teaching of our church and to the distinction between latria and dulia. They mock them and return to saying that, whatever account WE give of ourselves, they know better what we are doing than they do.
Then, they make assertions about matters of fact which are easily shown to be false. When this is pointed out, they mock or attack the credibility of those pointing it out.
Instead of reasonable argument, they repeat themselves over and over again, using Scripture like charms or incantations.
When invited to work together and to reason together, they accuse us of "parsing".
and so forth....
Aw c'mon. If you really hhink that I'm in the wrong place.