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To: jo kus; wmfights; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; 1000 silverlings; Quix
I did pay attention to the language.

He said

I am.....

You guys (RCs) crack me up. When it's convenient you are as literal as the fundamentalists you so often ridicule. Then you insist on a liberal reading.

I wish you would make up your collective minds.

11,799 posted on 03/23/2007 12:04:24 PM PDT by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Gamecock
When it's convenient you are as literal as the fundamentalists you so often ridicule. Then you insist on a liberal reading. I wish you would make up your collective minds.

I don't foresee that happening any time soon. It's been a long history of doublespeak...

You Tell Us:
Does Rome Provide Infallible Certainty
About the Gospel?

11,807 posted on 03/23/2007 12:15:06 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock
He said I am.....

Having a difficult time figuring out metaphorical language, I see. Which Jew left Jesus when, according to you, Jesus claimed to be a metal gate??? Which Jew left Jesus because He had lost it and called Himself a plant??? Yet there was a stampede when He said one must eat His flesh?

So when Jesus said "you must eat my flesh" why didn't everyone just say "oh, it's another metaphor"?

You know why? Eating one's flesh is a metaphor for being persecuted...

"Unless one persecutes me, he will not have eternal life". Is THAT what the "reformers" teach?

YOU guys crack me up because you only read parts of the Bible and twist them to your own preconceived ideas and beliefs.

Regards

11,810 posted on 03/23/2007 12:17:34 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: Gamecock
You guys (RCs) crack me up. When it's convenient you are as literal as the fundamentalists you so often ridicule. Then you insist on a liberal reading.

Unlike you guys who insist on a fundamental reading until you need a liberal reading. I wish you'd make up your minds. You're just SO diffferent from us!

In a huge leap of faith, we look at Jesus and see that he is not a door, and conclude that he is speaking metaphorically. Protestants fall back in AWE at our daring to assert that there are no knobs on the Lord. When they recover they begin to insult and fire up the random Scriputre generator again. However when it is possible, not inconceivable, that what He said could be taken literally, we take it literally and, well look at that, the Protestant mock us again and generate some more Scriptures and mockery

At least they're consistent. If it's good, pious, and reasonable, they mock it -- except for when they are busy misrepresenting it. They accuse us of believing in magic, but they use verses of Scripture like incantations. Having no arguments, they resort to mind numbing repetitions like a three year old wearing down a frazzled parent.

Newsflash: we get that your religion is so bankrupt that if you couldn't mock Catholics you wouldn't have any way to occupy your lonely hours. (Actually I don't really think that. I was just caught up in the atmosphere of technicolor mockery, abuse, condescension, and belittlement. We get that you disagree with us about this and that. We are willing to entertain your arguments, if you'd make them. We are not going to think them any more powerful for being repeated, we are not going to admire you for your endurance if you cite or quote the same verse over and over again. Perseveration is not a sign of health.

THINK about what you are doing! A thread is put up about a movie, and you all are driven not just to criticize the RC point of view but to mock it offensively and to call us liars. And then you wonder why we don't find you persuasive or even very attractive.

Oh? What's that? You're doing it for our own good? This is curative? How TOO kind of you. Thank you WAY too much, I'm sure.

11,817 posted on 03/23/2007 12:30:49 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Tactical shotty, Marlin 1894c, S&W 686P, Sig 226 & 239, Beretta 92fs & 8357, Glock 22, & attitude!)
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