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To: HarleyD
Paul says Abraham was saved by faith when he believed God. James says Abraham was saved by works 17 years later when he offered up Isaac. When was Abraham actually saved?

Depends on what you mean by saved...

And by the way, Paul (if you think he wrote Hebrews) also comments on Abraham being saved - at a DIFFERENT point that you list above...

Regards

11,579 posted on 03/21/2007 9:39:35 AM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus; fortheDeclaration
Depends on what you mean by saved...

Well, that's a new one. Did Paul and James mean "saved" in two different terms?

And by the way, Paul (if you think he wrote Hebrews) also comments on Abraham being saved - at a DIFFERENT point that you list above...

Hebrews only talks about Abraham's faith and it was at the time when Paul mentions it in Romans.

11,582 posted on 03/21/2007 9:50:28 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: jo kus; HarleyD
And by the way, Paul (if you think he wrote Hebrews) also comments on Abraham being saved - at a DIFFERENT point that you list above...

Would you care to point that out?

Heb 11 lists Abraham's faith from Gen.12 thru Gen.22.

12,018 posted on 03/26/2007 5:39:13 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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