[HarleyD]

Because it is crystal-clear that the Bible says we are saved by faith AND works.

Paul says Abraham was saved by faith when he believed God. James says Abraham was saved by works 17 years later when he offered up Isaac. When was Abraham actually saved?

[jo kus]

Paul says Abraham was saved by faith when he believed God. James says Abraham was saved by works 17 years later when he offered up Isaac. When was Abraham actually saved?

Depends on what you mean by saved...

And by the way, Paul (if you think he wrote Hebrews) also comments on Abraham being saved - at a DIFFERENT point that you list above...

Regards