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To: kosta50; Uncle Chip; Dr. Eckleburg
God does not change, but He does change in His dealings with men Nope. Wrong again. "He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous."

And do you offer any burnt offerings?

What you said had nothing to do with the fact that God changes in how He deals with mankind.

Nope, again. We have the NT because the Jews made the Old obsolete by thgeir idolatery AND because reading their Hebrew scripture, they do not recognize Christ even when he is among them. God didn't change. He still gives each an every one of us a perfect soul.

God didn't change but His dealings with men did.

III. THE LONGER CATECHISM OF THE ORTHODOX, CATHOLIC, EASTERN CHURCH. Examined and Approved by the Most Holy Governing Synod, and Published for the Use of Schools, and of all Orthodox Christians, by Order of His Imperial Majesty. (Moscow, at the Synodical Press, 1830.) 28. In what consisted the Old Testament? In this, that God promised men a divine Saviour, and prepared them to receive him. 29. How did God prepare men to receive the Saviour? Through gradual revelations, by prophecies and types. 30. In what consists the New Testament? In this, that God has actually given men a divine Saviour, his own only-begotten Son, Jesus Christ. http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/creeds2.vi.iii.i.html

That is called 'progressive revelation'

You will note that not a word is said about the Jews rejecting Christ with their Hebrew Scripture, which according to this Orthodox Creed was the basis of the correct OT

How many are the books of the Old Testament?

Ans. St Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Anthansius the Great, and St.John Damascene reckon them at twenty-two, agreeing therein with the Jews, who so reckon them in the original Hebrew tongues

Why should we attend to the reckoning of the Hebrews?

Because, as the Apostle Paul says, unto them were committed the oracles of God; and the sacred books of the Old Testament hae been received from the Hebrew Church of that Testament by the Christian of the New.

Why is there no notice taken in this enumeration of the books of the Old Testament of the son of Sirach and of certain others?

Because they do not exist in the Hebrew. (emphasis added)

11,278 posted on 03/10/2007 8:14:30 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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To: fortheDeclaration
And do you offer any burnt offerings?

No. Do you?

What you said had nothing to do with the fact that God changes in how He deals with mankind

I said nothing. The Gospel says that God gives the same to the righteous and the unrighteous. God does not change. What changes is how we perceive, understand, (ab)use, (mis)use, corrupt, betray, etc. His blessings.

The Cathecism...In what consisted the Old Testament? In this, that God promised men a divine Saviour, and prepared them to receive him

And yet, the Jews who read the same OT (in their language) will tell you otherwise! They don't see the divine savior in where we do. They don't see the foreshaddowing, where we do, they don see the aschtypes where we do. And yet they read the same OT the Protestants read.

At least we Orthodox "know" why this is so (we read that Greek "forgery" that was made to fit seamlessly with the NT as some Protestant schoalrs tell us); what's your excuse?

Mindset, fronhma, dear friend, is what changes our perceptions and our conceptions about God. God does not change; we do.

11,279 posted on 03/10/2007 11:37:43 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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