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To: fortheDeclaration
And do you offer any burnt offerings?

No. Do you?

What you said had nothing to do with the fact that God changes in how He deals with mankind

I said nothing. The Gospel says that God gives the same to the righteous and the unrighteous. God does not change. What changes is how we perceive, understand, (ab)use, (mis)use, corrupt, betray, etc. His blessings.

The Cathecism...In what consisted the Old Testament? In this, that God promised men a divine Saviour, and prepared them to receive him

And yet, the Jews who read the same OT (in their language) will tell you otherwise! They don't see the divine savior in where we do. They don't see the foreshaddowing, where we do, they don see the aschtypes where we do. And yet they read the same OT the Protestants read.

At least we Orthodox "know" why this is so (we read that Greek "forgery" that was made to fit seamlessly with the NT as some Protestant schoalrs tell us); what's your excuse?

Mindset, fronhma, dear friend, is what changes our perceptions and our conceptions about God. God does not change; we do.

11,279 posted on 03/10/2007 11:37:43 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

aschtypes =archtypes


11,280 posted on 03/10/2007 11:39:04 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
And do you offer any burnt offerings? No. Do you?

I am not the one claiming that God changes His dealings with mankind, you are.

What you said had nothing to do with the fact that God changes in how He deals with mankind I said nothing.

Well, on that we can both agree!

The Gospel says that God gives the same to the righteous and the unrighteous. God does not change. What changes is how we perceive, understand, (ab)use, (mis)use, corrupt, betray, etc. His blessings.

And that is not what we are talking about, we were talking about the difference between the Old and New Testament, not how God deals with each particular man.

The Cathecism...In what consisted the Old Testament? In this, that God promised men a divine Saviour, and prepared them to receive him And yet, the Jews who read the same OT (in their language) will tell you otherwise! They don't see the divine savior in where we do. They don't see the foreshaddowing, where we do, they don see the aschtypes where we do. And yet they read the same OT the Protestants read.

Yes, and Paul discusses this 'mystery' in Romans 11.

You ought to read it sometime.

He warns Gentiles of becoming 'wise in their own conceits' (Rom.11:25)

At least we Orthodox "know" why this is so (we read that Greek "forgery" that was made to fit seamlessly with the NT as some Protestant schoalrs tell us); what's your excuse?

I don't have to read the LXX to figure out what God is doing with the Jew, it is in the New Testament (Rom.9-11)

It is clear that your own Catechism rejected the LXX for the Hebrew of the Jews, understanding (unlike you) that God gave the Jew the oracles of God (Rom.3:2) in Hebrew.

Mindset, fronhma, dear friend, is what changes our perceptions and our conceptions about God. God does not change; we do.

God doesn't change, but what we know about God is found in His Sacred scriptures, something you have rejected.

11,281 posted on 03/11/2007 11:37:44 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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