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To: kosta50
Just as Comma Johanneum found its way into the bibles of the West, the Eatsern manuscripts also have their own sellection of additions. The whole library, east and west, is corrupt! Forgeries on top of forgeries!

And by "forgeries", you mean the Byzantine Text, right??? All those Greek Orthodox scribes and monks churning out "forgeries" right under the noses of their own metropolitans and nobody knew it or stopped them. Doesn't sound like the way to run a church, does it? Think about how long it took to make one copy of those "forgeries" --- about a year??? Who was paying the salaries of those Greek scribes in the monasteries and churches all that time???

Well, anyway thank God they were the right kind of "forgeries" --- forgeries of the Byzantine text, you know, the one that is closest to the original autographs. I don't think Paul, John, Matthew and the others minded that copies of their originals were made and disseminated to those who would actually translate them into Bibles that people could read rather than keeping them locked up in some metropolitan's ecclesiastical mausoleum.

The Geneva Bible was largely based on Tyndale's work, which was based on the corrupt Textus Receptus. All this then ended up being dumped into the KJV.

Nope --- Get your facts straight. Beza's 1598 Greek Text was the foundation for the KJV New Testament.

And we Protestants want to thank all of those Greek monks and scribes who worked day and night without pay all those years without anyone knowing it just so that Erasmus, Tyndale, Stephanus, Beza, and the KJV translators could have so many Greek manuscripts to confirm that the Greek text underlying their translation would be the right one.

We are just going in circles here looking for a way out, UC.

We're not --- You are ---

11,087 posted on 02/24/2007 6:32:13 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
And by "forgeries", you mean the Byzantine Text, right?...

Certainly. Scribes were inserting all sorts of things, making copying errors, etc.

Nope --- Get your facts straight. Beza's 1598 Greek Text was the foundation for the KJV New Testament.

You need to get your fact straight: between 80and 90% of the wording of the Geneva Bible is Tyndale's.

You have questioned everything so far without proving a single objection. Your major one was whether Erasmus's work involved retro-translation from Latin to Greek. It did. I have backed up everything I have said while you sit and wait for me to give you facts so that you can switch gears. Well, keep your seat.

11,090 posted on 02/24/2007 8:01:02 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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