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To: kosta50; fortheDeclaration
Since then, the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls (1947) demonstrated that there was more than one "Jewish canon" and that the Septuagint is actually a lot more genuine that it used to be believed in the 1850's, when brenton wrote that piece.

No, the DSS have reinforced the Masoretic text underlying the KJV. Nothing discovered in the DSS has proven as convincing as the Book of Isaiah written in Hebrew circa 100 BC, buried 70 AD, rediscovered 50 AD, and yet a near perfect match for the Masoretic text from circa 1000 AD.

10,915 posted on 02/20/2007 2:11:02 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip; kosta50
Nothing discovered in the DSS has proven as convincing as the Book of Isaiah written in Hebrew circa 100 BC, buried 70 AD, rediscovered 50 AD, and yet a near perfect match for the Masoretic text from circa 1000 AD.

I think your dates are off on Isaiah. Also, check the discrepancies of the Masoretic text of Matthew 15:8-9 vs. Isaiah 29:13.

Regards

10,916 posted on 02/20/2007 2:25:04 PM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: Uncle Chip; jo kus
No, the DSS have reinforced the Masoretic text underlying the KJV.

Jo has already pointed to the fact that this is not so. The book of isaih is the only complete book that has been recovered. You can't base the veracity of a whole canon on one book's integrity.

Besides, it's not am matter if the Masoretic Text is 'correct' or not but the fact that DSS do differ form it and do agree with the Septuagint, thereby shattering the fairytale that there was 'one Jewish canon.'

The fact that it agrees with LXX in some parts shows that the so-called "Hebrew" Bible (the canon of the Palestinian Pharisee sect, which everyone assumed to be the one and only correct version of the Old Testament is not what it was made to be.

The fact that the Apostles overwhelmingly use the Septuagint (over 90% of the time) shows that they considered it Scripture. Yet, it is not good enough for Protestants! Rather they use the canon of the Christ-denying Jewish sect.

The KJV "agrees" with the Paletisnian canon because that's the basis for its OT. No surprise there. The rest is based on the Textus Receptus, a "Greek" source retrotranslated into Greek from a Latin translation!

Add alittle Protestant flavoring that reeks in the KJV and you have a great source, indeed! Even the authors admit it was not inspired and list there are known lists of hundreds of errors in the KJV.

The DSS revealed that, yes, the Masoretic Text's Isaiah is faithfully preserved, and no, the Palestinian (Pharisaical) canon is not the OT bible; there were others, equally Jewish and equally valid: Judaism did not have a single canon. Bingo!

Also, the canon of the DSS contains numerous apocalypses not found in the Palestinian or Septuagint canon. The only thing we know for sure is (a) there was no single Jewish canon; the canon proclaimed at Jamnia and the OT used by the Protestants is not the only Jewish canon (in fact they picked the one that was the least distasteful to the Christ-denying Jamnia rabbis, and therefore the least "Christian"), and (b) the MT p[reserved faithfully the Qumran version of Isaiah, and (c) DSS agree in some parts with the Septuagint, in some parts with the Palestinian (Masoretic) text, and in some it disagrees with both, and finally (d) we do know that the Sadducees' canon consisted only of Torah (but we don't know which version), and that they controlled the Temple.

10,917 posted on 02/20/2007 4:29:16 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Uncle Chip

Good pts, imho.


10,919 posted on 02/20/2007 7:43:24 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE)
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