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To: Uncle Chip; kosta50
Nothing discovered in the DSS has proven as convincing as the Book of Isaiah written in Hebrew circa 100 BC, buried 70 AD, rediscovered 50 AD, and yet a near perfect match for the Masoretic text from circa 1000 AD.

I think your dates are off on Isaiah. Also, check the discrepancies of the Masoretic text of Matthew 15:8-9 vs. Isaiah 29:13.

Regards

10,916 posted on 02/20/2007 2:25:04 PM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: jo kus; kosta50
You are right, jo kus --- it should be 1950 AD or thereabouts, if that's what you mean. Your Catholic link tries to explain Origen away on this matter but it can't.

Origen assumed the accuracy of the Hebrew text in his first column of the Hexapla. He assumed it because it was true in his opinion. No one knew those Greek and Hebrew manuscripts like Origen in his day.

Why would someone with his knowledge of manuscripts undertake a work like the Hexapla, a massive scholarly undertaking for which there was no equal, and base it on a faulty assumption. He wouldn't and he didn't.

Clearly Origen examined all the available manuscripts of his day and saw that the Hebrew text was fixed and unchanging and put that text in column one.

The Greek texts of the OT of his day, however, varied widely. If there was a standard Septuagint version of his day, it would have been in one of those columns --- but there was no standard Greek OT, only multiple versions some more accurate in areas than others.

He needed five columns for the Greek texts and could have used three or four more columns as well for the Greek --- but he needed only one column for the Hebrew because there was only one Hebrew text and he believed that he had it and put it there in column one and then used all the others, especially Theodotian's Greek text in column six to create his LXX in column five.

Origen's Hexapla is testimony to the accuracy of the Hebrew text in his day. Jerome recognized it as well. It was just as that Jew Paul said in that Greek text of the letter to the Romans: unto them [the Jews] were committed the oracles of God and they were faithful to transmit them accurately, even books like Isaiah and Daniel wherein the prophecies of the Messiah clearly point to Jesus as their fulfillment.

10,928 posted on 02/21/2007 5:04:30 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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