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To: Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg
God HATES sin, and even when He knows it is coming from us, He is still angered by it

If you freely and willingly allow something, even if you hate it, there is no reason for anger. Such anger could only be directed as yourself, for allowing things you hate to happen.

As for the allusion to God repenting for creating man, do you think God "repented"? I don't

In Gen 6:6 the various English translations say that God "repented," "grieved," or was "sorry" for having created man.

In Gen 6:7 the Lord is actually quoted as saying that it "repented" (KJV) Him, that He was "sorry" (NAB) or that he is "grieved" (NIV) for creating man. The Septuagint (LXX) says "angered" or "enraged" (ethumothen)

Of course Numbers 23:19 says "God is not a man that He should lie, nor a son of man that He should repent [LXX says "be threatened"]..."

When in doubt, drop the verses that don't fit the pre-fab image, right? In one it says God was sorry; the other says God cannot be sorry.

So, let' assume then that they really mean "angry," and we have much of God's anger in the OT. Looking at it from this POV as you like to say, clearly, God was angry for having created us; even just in His anger because He hates our sin. But, honestly, there is no reason even for His anger, even if there is reason for hating our sin.

If someone is in charge and he allows things he hates to go on, the only justifiable anger would be against oneself for allowing it, especially if allowing it with absolutely certain foreknowledge of the consequences of which he is the author.

10,827 posted on 02/19/2007 6:53:48 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg
"If you freely and willingly allow something, even if you hate it, there is no reason for anger"

The ultimate origin of evil is not described in scripture and no attempt is made to give us a solution of the mystery as to why God permitted the first sin of man. Scripture begins by stating Satan's hostile and evil attitude towards God and to man. Gen. 3:1-7, Isa. 14:12-15, Ezek. 28:12-19, John 8:44, 2 Cor. 11:3, Rev. 12:9. Scripture deals with the consequences of sin and the development of variations of sin (Gen. 6 and 9-19), Job 14:1-10, Psalms 90:5-12, Rom. 3:10-18, 5:12-21, 7:5-24. 8:10, 19-22, 1 Tim. 2:12-15, James 4:14) and it gives us the penalty and satisfaction for sin.

What scripture does tell us is that :

God is not the author of sin (Isa. 45:7 means that god ordained the consequences of sin, not the sin itself).

God has no need of sin in order to enhance His glory, and He did not permit it solely in order to demonstrate His moral grandeur.

The subsequent responsibility of mankind in relation to sin is in no way diminished nor excused on the ground that men now living were not guilty of its inception.

God is not to be regarded as a party to the repeated acts of sin which man has all too successfully perpetuated, nor is He to be held responsible for the perpetuation of sin simply because He has not withdrawn His sustaining power from the universe. If man freely chooses to misuse certain of his wonderful endowments and to prostitute his remarkable abilities to sinful ends, it is scarcely just to blame God.

Scripture does not encourage philosophical speculation on the subject of the origin of sin or the reason for God's antipathy to it and, ever in keeping itself to the practical needs of man, focuses the attention on the acts of human responsibility. It gives no final answer to the question "Why did not God's foreknowledge lead Him to anticipate and to prevent sin both in the first man and also at its first entry into the universe, in whatever form that was?"
10,835 posted on 02/19/2007 9:44:08 AM PST by blue-duncan
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