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To: Forest Keeper
This bears repeating. And as you have heard from many others, well done Xzins! :) This sounds pretty "natural" and "usual" to me

Out of context, of couse. +Ignatius was confronting people who denied Christ's humanity.

That quote doesn't explain why was Mary's pregnancy supernatural and her labor wasn't.

This triumphalism reminds me somewhat of GW Bush's statement "we found WMDs" when the two weather ballon trucks were discovered by our troops in Iraq.

1,077 posted on 12/11/2006 10:00:51 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper
and was in reality nourished with milk, and partook of common meat and drink, even as we do.

This was the main focus of that quote. It was about our Lord and His humanity.

Forest Keeper, would you say that Christ's life was "natural and usual"?

1,079 posted on 12/11/2006 10:10:53 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: kosta50; xzins; wagglebee
That quote [by Ignatius] doesn't explain why was Mary's pregnancy supernatural and her labor wasn't.

Mary's pregnancy was not supernatural, the conception of Jesus was. St. Ignatius' quote confirms that both the pregnancy and delivery were natural or normal. :

[Ignatius:] "... He was carried in the womb, even as we are, for the usual period of time; and was really born, as we also are ..."

It's no problem if you want to disagree with what he said, but the fact remains that he said it. :)

1,352 posted on 12/13/2006 6:55:59 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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