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To: kawaii; DungeonMaster; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; wmfights; ...
I'm saying everything about protestantism since day one was inspired by Satan to fragment Christians and that the notion that one personal alone is somehow uniquely guided by the Holy Spirit to the extent of knowing more than the Church Fathers is deliberatly inspired by Satan so as to create numerous opposing sects and replace Christianity with a bunch of arguing sects all of which feel they have divine authority.

All Protestantism and all personal leading by the Holy Spirit are "inspired by Satan?" That's astounding. At least this candor puts the lie of ecumenicism in its rightful place.

Some people prefer to bow to other men, to "church fathers" and to assorted priests and wooden saints rather than to Jesus Christ alone, the only mediator between God and man. These people tend to be authoritarian by nature.

What you call "satanic" I call God-given and God-ordained because the word of God is perfect and will accomplish everything it was sent to do. Part of its mission is to separate the wheat from the tares...

"For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you." -- 1 Corinthians 11:19

No man can stop the reformation of God's church. As Calvin, a man blessed by the same grace as all believers, wrote...

THE NECESSITY OF REFORMING THE CHURCH

"...the restoration of the church is the work of God, and no more depends on the hopes and opinions of men, than the resurrection of the dead, or any other miracle of that description. Here, therefore, we are not to wait for facility of action, either from the will of men, or the temper of the times, but must rush forward through the midst of despair. It is the will of our Master that his gospel be preached. Let us obey his command, and follow whithersoever he calls. What the success will be it is not ours to inquire. Our only duty is to wish for what is best, and beseech it of the Lord in prayer; to strive with all zeal, solicitude, and diligence, to bring about the desired result, and, at the same time, to submit with patience to whatever that result may be." -- John Calvin

10,359 posted on 02/14/2007 1:39:54 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: kawaii; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Alamo-Girl; Corin Stormhands; Kolokotronis
I'm saying everything about protestantism since day one was inspired by Satan

Well, now that we've been told to go to "heck," what really is the point of discussion with kawaii? So we can enlighten him? he us? Ain't gonna happen.

10,361 posted on 02/14/2007 1:49:02 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Alamo-Girl; Forest Keeper; DarthVader; Blogger; blue-duncan; .30Carbine; ...

Have been pondering the fractious distinctions so many of us seem to obsess so much over with so much noise hereon . . .

It occurs to me that . . .

Probably what . . .

85-95% of the emotional noise arises NOT REALLY out of Biblical interpretational differences . . .

I mean IF we really took THE BIBLE THAT seriously, we'd not make SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH INTENSE NOISE over SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY very or RELATIVELY minor points of difference. We be MORE CONCERNED about being MORE LOVING.

So what is the 85-95% of the intensity generated by or about?

Seems to me it's the old IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP STUFF fostered, triggered, motivated, sourced by/from

REACTIVE ATTACHMENT DISORDER stuff the first 6 or so years of life . . . childhood insecurities.

THE GROUP--OUR PRIMARY REFERENCE GROUP--however we RELIGIOUSLY CONSTRUE THAT has somehow usurped God's place

AS OUR SECURITY, DEFENSE, HIGH TOWER, OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, OUR ALL IN ALL.

Somehow, for too many, THE GROUP has taken on all that aura, all that emotion; all that intensity; all that PLACE, POSITION, PURPOSE, ROLE.

I can't believe God is very impressed with that.

Perhaps He has partly allowed such distinctions amongst Christian groups to not only challenge us to Love regardless but to TRUST HIM WITH EVEN TRUTH regardless . . . as well as with ourselves.


10,364 posted on 02/14/2007 2:24:44 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; Quix; wmfights

Matthew 12
23And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?

24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

27And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.

28But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

29Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

30He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.


10,378 posted on 02/14/2007 3:50:13 PM PST by Blogger
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